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looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Brent Greer
 

I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer

Re: Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


HI Bob,
 
Thanks for the fascinating photo. I'm thinking, if I fill in some blanks in the photo, that the car closest to the camera possibly maybe is UTLX 629.
 
Note that NONE of the tank cars come equipped with any sort of dome platform nor any real place for employees to stand while working on loading/unloading the cars. To make up for this shortcoming, every car has a plank of wood to serve as a walkway and a work platform bridging from the car to the loading area.
 
I'm impressed that the loading area's elevated wooden walkway does NOT seem to be all soaked with oil!
 
It is clear that the tank car closest to the camera has the tank secured to the underframe by a cable that encirles the dome. The rest of the cars in the photo might have a more 'modern' tank anchorage.
 
What a glimpse into life over a century ago
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1593835/?q=loading

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I'm guess the time period is early 1900s.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro  wrote:

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945)
A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:
Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Publicity photo. Good detail of "B" end.

  Bob doesn't mention it, but this is one of the Rock Island's aluminum box cars, intended for head-end BX service. Nice photo, though possibly an excessive number of women, dramatizing who knows what.

Tony Thompson



Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2

Robert Chapman
 

Don Valentine asks:
What was the date the car was built? Wonder if I can squeeze one in.

Don -- 10/50. I'll bet you can.
Bob Chapman

Photo: Frisco Hopper 88447 (1954)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Frisco Hopper 88447 (1954)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc218238/?q=freight%20car

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

A wreck photo showing some underbody detail and the "B" end.

Is it possible that the side panels were added to this car after it was built?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1593835/?q=loading

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I'm guess the time period is early 1900s.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: SOO Boxcar 40388 (Circa 1930)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SOO Boxcar 40388 (Circa 1930)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1120289/?q=freight%20house

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Single-sheathed boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc543259/m1/1/?q=box%20car

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Publicity photo. Good detail of "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2

hubert mask
 

Do you have enough data from my decal set to complete this car.

Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals


On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:

DTI 14520 - same car in later paint scheme.  Zooming in the photo I read "BUILT 10-50" on it.

Craig Wilson


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Re: New Decals announced

hubert mask
 

Shot me a photo please.  Or a reference.   I'll get on it.

Thank you.

Hubert


On Aug 8, 2020, at 11:52 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Meanwhile, still waiting after 5 years for these…

 

Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM

This is going on my locomotive list at the top.

Will see what I can do.  Trying to get ready for the St. Louis show.

Hubert

Mask Island Decals Inc.


Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:36:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [STMFC] SP Decals
From: bpehni@...
To: maskisland@...

Not SP, but HB&T. Since I was born in Houston, I’ve been interested in modeling a couple of HB&T SW1200s. Attached is the EMD paint diagram. It’s pretty straight forward: all yellow on a black loco.

 

I suspect that a few Houston-area modelers might also purchase sets, as this scheme has never been done before in HO to my knowledge (Herald King did the all yellow with herald and black letters).

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

 

Thanks!
--
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Hubert Mask <maskisland@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2020 at 9:37 PM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Decals announced

 

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: maskisland@...
Date: August 7, 2020 at 10:26:13 PM EDT
To: STMFC@...
Subject: New Decals announced

Mask Island Decals Inc. is pleased to announce three new decal sets released.

KCS and Louisiana & Arkansas . Set provides the KCS and L&A together.

Also released Missouri Pacific early flat cars and panel side gondolas.  These sets are available through my site or through the Missouri Pacific Historical Society.

You may view these Decals on my web site.  Maskislanddecals.com.   Roads listed alphabetically under freight cars.

Thank you!
Mask Island Decals Inc.

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Re: New Decals announced

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Meanwhile, still waiting after 5 years for these…

 

Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM

This is going on my locomotive list at the top.

Will see what I can do.  Trying to get ready for the St. Louis show.

Hubert

Mask Island Decals Inc.


Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:36:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [STMFC] SP Decals
From: bpehni@...
To: maskisland@...

Not SP, but HB&T. Since I was born in Houston, I’ve been interested in modeling a couple of HB&T SW1200s. Attached is the EMD paint diagram. It’s pretty straight forward: all yellow on a black loco.

 

I suspect that a few Houston-area modelers might also purchase sets, as this scheme has never been done before in HO to my knowledge (Herald King did the all yellow with herald and black letters).

 

Thanks!
--
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Brian Ehni

 

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Hubert Mask <maskisland@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2020 at 9:37 PM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Decals announced

 

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: maskisland@...
Date: August 7, 2020 at 10:26:13 PM EDT
To: STMFC@...
Subject: New Decals announced

Mask Island Decals Inc. is pleased to announce three new decal sets released.

KCS and Louisiana & Arkansas . Set provides the KCS and L&A together.

Also released Missouri Pacific early flat cars and panel side gondolas.  These sets are available through my site or through the Missouri Pacific Historical Society.

You may view these Decals on my web site.  Maskislanddecals.com.   Roads listed alphabetically under freight cars.

Thank you!
Mask Island Decals Inc.

Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2

Craig Wilson
 

DTI 14520 - same car in later paint scheme.  Zooming in the photo I read "BUILT 10-50" on it.

Craig Wilson


Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Ted Culotta
 

Regarding the Ethyl emblem, it goes back further than 1952. It was used on cars as early as 1944 and likely prior to that, as well. Printing decals for them (dekuhls in Canadian).

Cheers,
Ted

New Decals announced

hubert mask
 




Begin forwarded message:

From: maskisland@...
Date: August 7, 2020 at 10:26:13 PM EDT
To: STMFC@...
Subject: New Decals announced

Mask Island Decals Inc. is pleased to announce three new decal sets released.

KCS and Louisiana & Arkansas . Set provides the KCS and L&A together.

Also released Missouri Pacific early flat cars and panel side gondolas.  These sets are available through my site or through the Missouri Pacific Historical Society.

You may view these Decals on my web site.  Maskislanddecals.com.   Roads listed alphabetically under freight cars.

Thank you!
Mask Island Decals Inc.

Re: Sunshine Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Ken Soroos wrote:
"The last three kits on the list seem to be special Sunshine runs commissioned by RPI.  They are in the same type white boxes as the Sunshine kits and have similar labels.  Note that the last one only is priced at $10.

NGD-FO12    [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop]  Boston and Albany        A
                36’ Wood Boxcar  w/ Dreadnaught Ends

NGD-FO25    [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop]  Atlantic Coast Line        A
                40’  Victory Gondola  As Built in 1943  w/composite sides
                Includes Decals

NGD        [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop]  DL&W  40’ Steel    No Label on Box
                Boxcar  ($10)"

The NEB&W Green Dot kits were done by Funaro, not Sunshine.


Ben Hom

Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Ian Cranstone
 

Interesting fun fact about those UTLX cars – they're actually cars belonging to UTLX's Canadian subsidiary Products Tank Line of Canada, being former Canadian Industries Limited cars built by Canadian Car & Foundry (likely licence-built using AC&F designs), transferred to UTLX reporting marks beginning in 1957. Broadway did a 4-pack of these cars in an earlier run, and also did a four-pack of CILX cars earlier. If you have a close look at the artwork on the Broadway site, you will see CC&F as the builder.

Of course, since the Products Tank Line of Canada's markings were identical to parent UTLX's markings, only the truly picky will worry about them being Canadian cars. It wasn't until after 1962, when the Products Tank Line of Canada became Procor Limited that the Canadian operation took on a visible identity.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...

 


On 2020-08-07 21:05, Ron Merrick wrote:


I don't remember the UTLX black scheme from the first run, but those might be more useful than any of the colorful ones.

Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

mopacfirst
 

Steve:

Thanks for the research on these.  I picked up one of the Ethyl black-band cars before I realized it was too late for me, but I didn't have exact dates.

I don't remember the UTLX black scheme from the first run, but those might be more useful than any of the colorful ones.

Ron Merrick

Sunshine Kits

Ken Soroos
 

Hi Guys -

Our local hobby shop acquired an estate from a very good modeler here in Madison. Among the items available are the Sunshine kits listed below. There is little local interest, so I thought I’d post them here for him as they’ll never be at one of our Prototype Modeler events. All kits are priced at $24 plus (actual) shipping. I glanced in each of the boxes, which all had been previously opened for inspection, but the parts and packing seem to be all there. If you call Chris, you could ask him to check the box(es) you’re interested in to see if everything looks o.k.

The descriptions below indicate what is printed on the labels. The boxes themselves vary in condition. They are all physically fine, but some of the outsides are somewhat stained and/or shop-worn. I’ve tried to indicate the box conditions on a scale from A (best) to F (poorest).

The last three kits on the list seem to be special Sunshine runs commissioned by RPI. They are in the same type white boxes as the Sunshine kits and have similar labels. Note that the last one only is priced at $10.

If interested, call Chris Roosli at Madison Hobby Stop at 608-829-3820 or e-mail chris@....

Ken Soroos

Kit No. Description Box Condition

3.1 Atlantic Coast Line Steel Side Rebuild A-B
USRA Double-Sheathed Boxcar

3.2 Charleston & Western Carolina 8000 Series Steel Side Rebuild C-D

9.7 10’-4” IH Steel USRA Rebuild Santa Fe Bx-__ (number illegible) B-C
Scout Straight Line Map and “Buy War Bonds” Decals

10.6 PRR X-31 Double Door Auto Car A

11.2 EJ&E 7300 Series Steel Rebuild with White Box Herald D

14.2 A.R.T. Reefer Wood Roof Steel Hatches A

15.1 Mather 40’ Reefer Steel Ends Morrell Banner Herald A

18.2 C&O AAR Boxcar w/Deco Ends D

41.1 Milw 1939-40 Rib Boxcar “Hiawatha” Wood Board D

41.3 Milw 1939-40 Rib Boxcar “Hiawatha” Steel Board D

NGD-FO12 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Boston and Albany A
36’ Wood Boxcar w/ Dreadnaught Ends

NGD-FO25 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Atlantic Coast Line A
40’ Victory Gondola As Built in 1943 w/composite sides
Includes Decals

NGD [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] DL&W 40’ Steel No Label on Box
Boxcar ($10)

Also:

101-1B Pittsburgh Scale Models (resin) Union Pacific y/w A
War Emergency Flatcar ($24)

Chris also has 5 older Westerfield kits for $7 each that you can ask about if interested.

Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

James SANDIFER
 

If I am reading Richard’s article correctly, and looking at the BLI website, I come up with the following dates for the BLI paint schemes.

 

Columbia Southern car paint scheme is good from 1953.

Great Western Dow Chemical is not shown in the article.

Ethyl Corporation Gray w/Black and Yellow Logo paint scheme is good from 1952-1970s

Ethyl Corporation Dark Gray with/Black Band is good from the 1970s onward (Photo in article is 1977).

Hooker As-Delivered Scheme is not as-delivered according to Richard. The as delivered was Black with red stripe down the middle. He does not mention this BLI scheme.

Hooker Billboard scheme is good from end of WWII. In another article and a post on this list he corrected the date to early as April, 1952.

Penn Salt paint scheme is good from “the 50s” with a photo showing 2/55.

Stauffer Chemical photo is not shown in the article.

UTLX paint scheme is not shown in the article.

 

I hope some of our tank car specialist will chime in on these dates.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Helm
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

 

I just found my copy of a September 2004 RMJ article that Richard Hendrickson wrote about the 6000 gallon pressure tank cars used for chlorine and in there he states that the orange and black scheme appeared after WWII, so my earlier statement was clearly off.  He also has a photo of the black and red scheme that Hawkins describes, dated 1938.  

Regards
--
Jeff Helm
Bremerton WA

Re: PFE wood ice reefer underframes

Bill Welch
 

Westerfield also has PFE kits with both types of U/F's.

Bill Welch