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Re: Diagonal Panel Roof

Brian Carlson
 

Branchline/atlas also offered this roof. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Bob Chapman <chapbob611@...> wrote:


I'm in need of a HO scale 40' diagonal panel roof for a boxcar project. At one time, Red Caboose offered these as an aftermarket part (#8700-04), but InterMountain's website no longer lists it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bob Chapman

Diagonal Panel Roof

Bob Chapman
 

I'm in need of a HO scale 40' diagonal panel roof for a boxcar project. At one time, Red Caboose offered these as an aftermarket part (#8700-04), but InterMountain's website no longer lists it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bob Chapman

Re: NP Refrigerators

Eric Hansmann
 

Sweet work, Paul!

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Here’s a North Pacific Norwest kit I have built.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 

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On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:01, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:



Norwest made resin kits and W&R imported brass models. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of npin53
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Refrigerators

 

They all had fishbelly center sills.

Aaron Gjermundson

Re: NP Wood Reefer

Bill Daniels
 

Hi Gene... any chance you could post the full drawings, or is the half drawing all you've got?

Bill Daniels 
Santa Rosa, CA


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 12:19:07 PM PST, Gene Deimling <proto48@...> wrote:


I thought that I might share a little information on the design of the underframe for the wood reefers.   You will find an extract of the general arrangement drawing showing the underframe and two pictures showing the frame under construction.  This might clear up some of the question as to the design used on these cars.


--
Gene Deimling
El Dorado Hills, CA

Re: Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

Bill Daniels
 

Notice that in the color shot, the knuckle of the visible coupler has been removed. Of course, those archbar truvks are long illegal for interchange. The brake cylinder appears to be a KD style. Back when I was a kid, there was another isolated tank car at the small yard office a couple of miles from my home. I can't remember if they pulled the rail behind it, but the knuckles were also missing on it as well. When the yard was removed (probably in the 90's) I would have to guess that the car was scrapped in place. The car was there to fuel the six switchers that were assigned to that line. Sanding of the units was done by hand. On this car, in the first shot, I noticed that the knuckle on the other end was slotted for a link and pin attachment, which tells you how old this car was. You cannot see it from this angle. I cannot say for sure, but I would guess that the missing knuckle was "borrowed" by a crew that experienced a cracked knuckle on their train.

Bill Daniels 
Santa Rosa, CA


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 12:56:10 PM PST, Dean Kinzley via Groups.Io <dean.kinzley@...> wrote:


Thanks for this and thanks too for the pointer to the Hoboken Shore Railroad, which was new to me.
Dean

On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 01:59:24 PM EST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

A 1955 photo from Riley Triggs' Port of New York blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZsX-F4jSe0/VQeUHnm9mJI/AAAAAAAAESQ/iUKe53LG-zQ/s1600/Roster%2Bat%2BGeneral%2BFoods.jpg

There are no markings on the car so perhaps it is in company service.

The photo is from the collection of Tim Stuy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: NP Refrigerators

O Fenton Wells
 

Looking good Paul, I haven't built that one yet.  It's in inventory
Fenton

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 5:11 PM Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here’s a North Pacific Norwest kit I have built.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 




On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:01, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:



Norwest made resin kits and W&R imported brass models. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of npin53
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Refrigerators

 

They all had fishbelly center sills.

Aaron Gjermundson



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: NP Refrigerators

Paul Doggett
 

Here’s a North Pacific Norwest kit I have built.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 




On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:01, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:



Norwest made resin kits and W&R imported brass models. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of npin53
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Refrigerators

 

They all had fishbelly center sills.

Aaron Gjermundson

Re: Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

Dean Kinzley
 

Thanks for this and thanks too for the pointer to the Hoboken Shore Railroad, which was new to me.
Dean

On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 01:59:24 PM EST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

A 1955 photo from Riley Triggs' Port of New York blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZsX-F4jSe0/VQeUHnm9mJI/AAAAAAAAESQ/iUKe53LG-zQ/s1600/Roster%2Bat%2BGeneral%2BFoods.jpg

There are no markings on the car so perhaps it is in company service.

The photo is from the collection of Tim Stuy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

Matt Herson
 

Attaching a photo I took in January 1962 of what appears to be the same tank car.  Rail has been removed on both sides of car and the car is stationary.

 

Matt Herson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Daniels via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

 

Well, seeing as to how the rail between the car and the rest of the line has been pulled up recently (at least as of the date of the photo), it may be safe to assume that the car is in true captive service.

 

Bill Daniels 

Santa Rosa, CA

 

 

On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 10:59:23 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

 

 

Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

A 1955 photo from Riley Triggs' Port of New York blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZsX-F4jSe0/VQeUHnm9mJI/AAAAAAAAESQ/iUKe53LG-zQ/s1600/Roster%2Bat%2BGeneral%2BFoods.jpg

There are no markings on the car so perhaps it is in company service.

The photo is from the collection of Tim Stuy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

NP Wood Reefer

Gene Deimling
 

I thought that I might share a little information on the design of the underframe for the wood reefers.   You will find an extract of the general arrangement drawing showing the underframe and two pictures showing the frame under construction.  This might clear up some of the question as to the design used on these cars.


--
Gene Deimling
El Dorado Hills, CA

Re: NP Refrigerators

gary laakso
 

Norwest made resin kits and W&R imported brass models. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of npin53
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Refrigerators

 

They all had fishbelly center sills.

Aaron Gjermundson

Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

Bill Daniels
 

Well, it does help to be sitting in front of my computer when your request came in... Emoji

Bill Daniels 
Santa Rosa, CA


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 11:34:01 AM PST, Brian Termunde via Groups.Io <gcrds@...> wrote:


Well that was FAST! Thank you Bill!

Take care
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT

Re: Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

Bill Daniels
 

Well, seeing as to how the rail between the car and the rest of the line has been pulled up recently (at least as of the date of the photo), it may be safe to assume that the car is in true captive service.

Bill Daniels 
Santa Rosa, CA


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 10:59:23 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

A 1955 photo from Riley Triggs' Port of New York blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZsX-F4jSe0/VQeUHnm9mJI/AAAAAAAAESQ/iUKe53LG-zQ/s1600/Roster%2Bat%2BGeneral%2BFoods.jpg

There are no markings on the car so perhaps it is in company service.

The photo is from the collection of Tim Stuy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

Brian Termunde
 

Well that was FAST! Thank you Bill!

Take care
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT

Re: Interesting load on a SAL flat

Bill Daniels
 

They are watertube boilers. Similar to marine boilers. They are the opposite of firetube boilers which were commonly used on steam locomotives where the combustion gasses go through the tubes and water surrounds the tube. In these, the water/steam is inside the tubes, while the fire is outside them. In operation, these are much safer than firetube boilers. And, before you ask, several roads did experiment with watertube (or a hybrid design) boilers... unsucessfully. The B&O was the major road that used a variety of them, but other roads did experiment (including the PRR). The big advantage of firetube boilers in locomotives was the large reservior of water in the boiler that was at the boiling point for the pressure inside the boiler would respond instantaniously to a lowering of pressure inside the boiler due to increased steam demand. Lowering the pressure caused more water to flash to steam without the crew's action. This was valuable in locomotive use, but not so much so in other, steady-state applications.

Bill Daniels 
Santa Rosa, CA


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 11:13:10 AM PST, Brian Termunde via Groups.Io <gcrds@...> wrote:


On one of my Milwaukee Road lists, the attached photo was shared. He was interested in the load, any ideas?

Thanks!

Take care

Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT

Re: NP Refrigerators

Bill Welch
 

I case these will help:

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/modeling/models/welch/np90218main.html

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/modeling/models/welch/np92313main.html

There are slight variations in terms of ladders and grab iron attachment.

Bill Welch

Interesting load on a SAL flat

Brian Termunde
 

On one of my Milwaukee Road lists, the attached photo was shared. He was interested in the load, any ideas?

Thanks!

Take care

Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT

Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Tank Car With Full Hand Railings

A 1955 photo from Riley Triggs' Port of New York blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZsX-F4jSe0/VQeUHnm9mJI/AAAAAAAAESQ/iUKe53LG-zQ/s1600/Roster%2Bat%2BGeneral%2BFoods.jpg

There are no markings on the car so perhaps it is in company service.

The photo is from the collection of Tim Stuy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: NP Refrigerators

Dennis Storzek
 

What about the crossbearers? The Accurail UF has the common arrangement where the CB tapers from 7" to 12" and the cover plate goes through a slot in the center sills. The Tichy UF has crossbearers that taper all the way to the bottom of the center sill, more like a passenger car. Turns out the IC car that was this year's give-away project at the Lisle RPM also has this form, and Frank included resin parts to replace the crossbearers on the Accurail floor.

Dennis Storzek

Re: NP Refrigerators

npin53
 

They all had fishbelly center sills.

Aaron Gjermundson