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MWR 1201-1275 series Mather Patent Boxcar help

John Stanford
 

Hi - new list member here.  I'm returning to the hobby after a brief 30 year hiatus and have been frantically reading to try to catch up on everything that's changed in the interim.  Its great to see many familiar names active here of prior friends & acquantances, as well as those who's work I've followed and admired.  Hi Todd, Ben, Don and others!  

I've ordered several Yarmouth kits to get familiar with the current state of the art in resin kits and studying the writings of many on here to learn new techniques & materials.

While waiting for those I've dusted off an old Sunshine kit for a Muncie & Western Mather Boxcar to move to the workbench, but I'm hoping to find more prototype information as there's not much in the kit nor am I finding on-line. 

The MWR 1201-1275 series were 8'5" IH cars.  I've found photos of Mather cars from the 1101-1185 and 1276-1300 series but those were taller cars.  I'm also interested in underbody detail from any of the Mather cars as a guide.

My old NEB&W guide notes articles on Mather cars from 11/86 Mainline Modeler and a Martin Lofton article from 2/91 RMC.  I have the MM article but unfortunately the RMC's were long recycled.

Hi again and thanks for any guidance the group can share.

John Stanford

Re: What kind of truck is this?

Rich Yoder
 

Given the era and the style its pressed steel but I don’t know who built it.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: STMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] What kind of truck is this?

 

Not a typical arch bar truck.

 

On a B&O N-8 hopper, photo from the Columbus OH. Library.

 

Dave Nelson

Re: ACL O-17 Ventilation Box Car - "Watermelon Car"

Rich Yoder
 

Hi Bill,

I do .

Contact me off the list. richyoder@...

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of wrlyders via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:28 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ACL O-17 Ventilation Box Car - "Watermelon Car"

 

I am trying to scratch build the ACL Watermelon Car starting with an Ambroid Kit from the 50s [One of my Cars for my NMRA AP Cars certificate]. This kit has all the wood pieces but no car details like the brakes, wheels, etc., nor are they described in the brief kit instructions

 

From my research, I have some pictures and have an idea of which details I need. But I don’t have specific types or sizes of the following:

  • Side Grab irons: 18”, 21”, or 22” or another size
  • Door Grab Irons: size
  • Ladders on the end: 7 rungs, 8 rungs. I assume metal ladders, not wood
  • Brake System – Brake gear, Cylinder, reduction valve, etc.
  • Brake handle on end above the roof
  • Door handles, rollers, etc.
  • Connectors for brake lines underneath and up the size
  • Underbody parts layout and detail [the kit shows some but not all detail parts]

I need pictures or drawings or parts lists showing these items in order to scratchbuild or purchase these parts. I found the ACL/SAL Historical Society and the NC Transportation Museum web sites devoid of rolling stock details.

 

Does anybody have any links or information that I can use?

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Bill Lyders

 

Re: ACL O-17 Ventilation Box Car - "Watermelon Car"

golden1014
 

This should help you, Bill.

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

Pulpwood cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Need to move pulpwood? Fenton Wells shares Southern Railway prototype history and modeling techniques for a few car designs. It's the latest Resin Car Works blog post.

Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy

Re: Boxcars Labeled "Vehicle" Or "Carriage"

earlyrail
 

OK  37' 6"  Thirty Seven feet Six inches interior
Fid not proof read correctly.

Howard

Re: FS: WalthersProto National B-1 Rigid Trucks

Sam Reynolds
 

The National B-1 trucks have been sold pending payment. Thanks for looking!

Sam Reynolds

FS: WalthersProto National B-1 Rigid Trucks

Sam Reynolds
 

I have for sale 5 pair of WalthersProto National B-1 Rigid Trucks. The trucks come with 33” metal wheels and metal axles (Walthers #920-2001). All 5 pair of trucks are in their original, unopened packaging from Walthers. I’m asking $45 for the 5 pair of trucks plus shipping (USPS Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Box $8.30). Photos of the trucks can be provided upon request. I accept PayPal or USPS Money Orders for payment. If interested please contact me off list.

Sam Reynolds

Re: Photo: N&W Hopper 21967 Unloading Coal

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Interesting shot, and yes, my gosh, HUGE chunks of coal!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Hopper 21967 Unloading Coal

 

Photo: N&W Hopper 21967 Unloading Coal

A 1930 photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/172754

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Those are some big chunks of coal!

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

Eric Hansmann
 

The heavy end sill is another spotting feature of the X25. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 24, 2020, at 2:02 PM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:

Caption calls it an X29, but methinks it's an X25. (Door opens left.)

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

al_brown03
 

Caption calls it an X29, but methinks it's an X25. (Door opens left.)

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

The building the background made me very curious. What was Alabastine? Apparently a gypsum-based tinted plaster. 

Here is a Wikipedia link to the Alabastine Mine, now a secure underground storage facility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabastine_Mine

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:31 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

A circa 1925 photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/161518

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: PRR X29 Boxcar 570816 With Banner

Bill Keene
 

Nice photo.  BUT what is that tower in the background?

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On May 24, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: PRR X29 Boxcar 570816 With Banner

A circa 1930s photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/165252

A load of wax paper.

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Boxcar 563144

A circa 1925 photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/161518

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: PRR X29 Boxcar 570816 With Banner

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR X29 Boxcar 570816 With Banner

A circa 1930s photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/165252

A load of wax paper.

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: N&W Hopper 21967 Unloading Coal

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Hopper 21967 Unloading Coal

A 1930 photo from the Grand Rapids Public Museum:

https://www.grpmcollections.org/Detail/objects/172754

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Those are some big chunks of coal!

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Boxcars Labeled "Vehicle" Or "Carriage"

Brian Termunde
 

Wow, 'only' 327 feet long! <G> I'd have issues running that baby on my club layout no doubt, even 'N'ormal Scale.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Re: Boxcars Labeled "Vehicle" Or "Carriage"
From: earlyrail
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 12:21:43 PDT
Actually this is a 327' 6" inner length car, 40,000 cpy. series 41000 - 41716 (even only) 297 car in 1905
Howard Garner

Re: What activity is going on here?

Clark Propst
 

I think the guy in the stripped jacket is shoveling a few lumps off the conveyor into the MoW car...Neat photo of an old coal conveyor anyway.
CW Propst

Re: Ore car help

Thomas Evans
 

The plans for this car are also in the 1895 & 1898 Car Builders Dictionary along with a photo of an apparently identical LS&MS car.
These were reproduced in Newton Gregg's Train Shed Cyclopedia #55 (for the photo) & #57 (for the plan).

Tom

SOLD: HO Western Pacific 42' 1916 blt BoxCar

Andy Carlson
 

Hi everyone-
This single set of castings for the WP box car has been spoken for. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 6:42:49 PM PDT, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


Hello-

I have made a few castings for a WP 42' single sheathed box car, the real one was built in 1916. Many of these cars reached a few years after the War, but most were rebuilt from the years of 1937 and on for cabooses and stock cars, so not many received AB brakes, with the exception of the gypsum top hatch loading cars which served from Gerlick to the Bay Area.

I have set of castings which will do a single box car. No decals, trucks, couplers brake sets, just the hard parts for this venerable WP box car.

These parts have some small flaws which make them unsuitable for a sell at full price. I think that a modeler with some experience fixing some small voids with putty should be able to make a first class looking box car. I don't recommend anyone who has no experience with resin kit building for this car has no instructions.