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ADMIN RE: [RealSTMFC] New eBay listing

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Folks,

 

The relevant rules are below.  Permit me to summarize:

1.  We permit the announcement of freight car-related items for sale.  These announcements should be kept to a minimum, and inquiries directed off-list.

2. COMPANIES who wish to announce freight car-related items for sale shall post their announcements between noon Friday EST and Saturday 11:59PM EST.

 

In my judgement, Clark Propst’s email meets the spirit and the letter of the rules.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley,

Deputy Moderator, STMFC

 

“Announcements of frt car related items for sale are permitted BUT actual

lists of items should be made available from the seller upon request rather

than in the message. Announcements of such sales should be kept at a

minimum. The primary objective of the group is to exchange information

concerning the subject.

 

Messages regarding the selling of products as part of a commercial

enterprise must be sent during the period of noon Friday EST and Saturday

midnight EST.

 

Each seller is allowed one message unless a correction is needed. Seller

messages MUST include OFF GROUP addresses for replies. Replies by members to

seller messages MUST be OFF GROUP.”

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Huber via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New eBay listing

 

I read the group description and goals and see no mention of selling, etc. I would prefer this group NOT become flea market but still welcome someone selling kits or completed cars, parts or being made aware of new products. Some folks don't have a lot of contacts in which to be informed about things so we should be able to share here.

 

I would appreciate having a moderator get in this conversation with a YEA or NAY for us.

 

Thanks,

 

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

 

 

 

Re: New eBay listing

Brian Termunde
 

Several of my groups have similar restrictions. The challenge for me is that I do not have internet at home (I spend to much time on it here at work! <G>), and I am off work Thursdays and Fridays, so unless I go to the library and deal with their computers, I cannot post ad's if I wanted to.

Pretty much like I said before, I have little issues with ad's as long as they are limited in number and scope. However, the rules are the rules, and we should honor them.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Re: New eBay listing
From: BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 16:30:10 PST
My $0.02: for sale listings have historically been limited to Friday. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 

Re: New eBay listing

Brian Termunde
 

I'm an N Scaler, modeling the Pacific Northwest, but as long as we aren't bombarded by ads and they are Steam Era Freight Cars, I see no problems with them. One can ignore them, I did go and check it out, even though I was sure it was HO, which it was . . . nicely done car too!

I think that it would be rather hard to try to restrict posts to ONE era or scale, and I don't think that they should be. There are posts all the time that are of no interest to me, but they are to others, and I am fine with that. It's no big deal. Besides, sometimes I learn something despite myself!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Re: New eBay listing

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

My $0.02: for sale listings have historically been limited to Friday. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jan 27, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


Respectfully, I have to say, "why not"? Others have posted about books and new arrival freight car kits or parts so what's the difference? Personally, I don't mind seeing a plug from a member selling something or being advised of a new kit. It's all on the same trail to me to having or building a nice model for my layout. 

Things are posted often I have no interest in and I just hit delete. No pain involved. I'd hate to see another means of acquiring something I "need" be taken away from me/us.

Just my 2¢.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, January 27, 2020, 05:21:13 PM CST, Jake Schaible <jjschaible@...> wrote:


Respectfully, let's not use this board to post advert.  Not all of use model your era and scale.

-J

Re: New eBay listing

Bill Keene
 

Yes. What Bill wrote.

But I thought that sales notices were limited to postings on Friday only. Then again, perhaps I have my groups confused. 

Cheers from “confused most of the time” 
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Jan 27, 2020, at 3:41 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:

Actually I enjoy this aspect t if the list.  I have bought several completed models from this modeler for whom I have a great deal of respect.
Had he not called attention to this I would have missed out.

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Jake Schaible <jjschaible@...>
Date: 1/27/20 1:21 PM (GMT-10:00)
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New eBay listing

Respectfully, let's not use this board to post advert.  Not all of use model your era and scale.

-J

Re: New eBay listing

Roger Huber
 

I read the group description and goals and see no mention of selling, etc. I would prefer this group NOT become flea market but still welcome someone selling kits or completed cars, parts or being made aware of new products. Some folks don't have a lot of contacts in which to be informed about things so we should be able to share here.

I would appreciate having a moderator get in this conversation with a YEA or NAY for us.

Thanks,

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works



Re: New eBay listing

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Actually I enjoy this aspect t if the list.  I have bought several completed models from this modeler for whom I have a great deal of respect.
Had he not called attention to this I would have missed out.

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Jake Schaible <jjschaible@...>
Date: 1/27/20 1:21 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New eBay listing

Respectfully, let's not use this board to post advert.  Not all of use model your era and scale.

-J

Re: New eBay listing

Roger Huber
 

Respectfully, I have to say, "why not"? Others have posted about books and new arrival freight car kits or parts so what's the difference? Personally, I don't mind seeing a plug from a member selling something or being advised of a new kit. It's all on the same trail to me to having or building a nice model for my layout. 

Things are posted often I have no interest in and I just hit delete. No pain involved. I'd hate to see another means of acquiring something I "need" be taken away from me/us.

Just my 2¢.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, January 27, 2020, 05:21:13 PM CST, Jake Schaible <jjschaible@...> wrote:


Respectfully, let's not use this board to post advert.  Not all of use model your era and scale.

-J

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

mopacfirst
 

Funny you should ask.  Early Sunshine (or maybe even late ones) always included at least two triple valves along with the other small parts.  I have always saved them and used them on kits like Intermountain where the supplied triple valve just looks like a cube.  In my early days of building resin kits, the most common plastic AB brake set that I could find at the hobby shop was the DA, I believe, and I recall they were hard to come by (or maybe they weren't stocked) so I used the resin ones.  Now I use the Tichy brake set, mostly, which is the one that's included in a lot of more recent resin kits, but I also keep an inventory of them.  I'd rather use a plastic brakewheel if there's one that matches the prototype.  And a few of my builds with deep fishbelly sides have no brake gear at all under the car.

Same goes for ladders, I would rather use a plastic ladder if it matches closely enough.  Many of my builds of postwar cars get Branchline ladders.

Speaking of which, I need to call Atlas to see if I can get a couple dozen sets of end and side details.  Those parts aren't on Atlas' on-line parts list, or I haven't found them.

Ron Merrick

Re: New eBay listing

Jake Schaible
 

Respectfully, let's not use this board to post advert.  Not all of use model your era and scale.

-J

New eBay listing

Clark Propst
 

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Lester Breuer
 

Yes and No.  It depends on the quality of the resin parts and the car I am using them on.  Of the brake components I use the control valve the most due to the quality of many plastic ones.

Surprised to hear about the casting defect rate.  I have attempted to mold them and as you stated difficult to extract from the mold.  I find even more difficult is to fill the mold with proper amount of resin to get a good part even if vaccum chamber and pump used.

Lester Breuer

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Steve Salotti
 

Hi Tom,
I'd say I use them about 60% of the time.  And save most of the pieces (most kits seem to come with extras) in case I don't like the pieces in the next kit.

Steve Salotti

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Bill Welch
 

I have about 30-40 Grandt Line AB sets left from a bulk order a few years ago that I save for special models self defined. Sunshine enclosed Bowser/Cal-Scale and Terry Wegman's sets and I use those. But I have several resin sets that have been given me that I use for not-so-special models self-defined plus I use the Westerfield sets whenever possible.

Bill Welch

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

greg snook
 

For me, it depends on the car.  Decently deep side sill?  Resin air brakes will be used, no need to add to the cost of a kit if it won't be seen in any reasonable operating scenario.
Cheers,
Greg Snook


Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Todd Sullivan
 

It depends.  If the resin brake parts are well molded (and demolded), I'll use them.  If they are not, or are not accurate or true to the prototype parts, I'll substitute plastic parts.

Todd Sullivan.

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

James SANDIFER
 

I don’t use the brake details. Many are distorted anyway. I use plastic.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Madden via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Does anyone use resin brake components?

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:

I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.

An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden

Prototype Junction at the Amherst Railroad Hobby Show

John Drake
 

Randy and I had a great time at the Amherst Railway Society Railroad Hobby Show this weekend talking about our HO scale injection-molded plastic tall Pratt truss single-sheathed boxcar and auto car project. We had many great conversations and connected with a lot of great people.  We also received overwhelmingly positive feedback, both for the model choices as well as our crowd-funding approach to finance this extensive project.  Thank you to those who stopped by the Prototype Junction booth, and for those of you who have already pledged your support to the project, thank you even more!

We’re just past the halfway point of our crowdfunding campaign, so there is still time to make a funding pledge.  We really hope all of you who are interested in the project will step up, be part of the process and get some really cool freight cars.  In case you are not familiar with our project, check out our website at: https://www.prototypejunction.com/.  To pledge your support, follow the links on the site to our IndieGoGo crowd-funding page.  We were offering some very attractive show discounts over the weekend, but we will be leaving them in place through January 31 so you can take advantage of them through this week. 

Our funding campaign wraps up soon, so if you would like to see these cars produced, we must meet our funding goal.  If we don’t, we can’t move forward.  It would be great if we can get this project funded, not only to produce these unique single-sheathed cars, but to also open the door to future crowd-funded interesting model railroad rolling stock projects.

Thanks everyone!


John Drake
Prototype Junction
https://www.prototypejunction.com

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Bruce Smith
 

Tom,

They go in the trash because the injection molded plastic sets I have have much better fidelity. Indeed the resin parts are made worse when things like the reservoir come in multiple parts and have to be assembled.

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Jan 27, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


I have rarely used the resin brake appliances myself - Usually on kits where
there is a specialty item, like the twin-piston cylinder on the R-70-2 kit, or
a Royal F slack adjuster. It would not bother me if the appliances were omitted
from the kits - and the brake housing and brake wheel either, if those are not
difficult to procure somewhere else.

Tim O'



On 1/27/2020 2:50 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:
I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.
An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Tim O'Connor
 


I have rarely used the resin brake appliances myself - Usually on kits where
there is a specialty item, like the twin-piston cylinder on the R-70-2 kit, or
a Royal F slack adjuster. It would not bother me if the appliances were omitted
from the kits - and the brake housing and brake wheel either, if those are not
difficult to procure somewhere else.

Tim O'



On 1/27/2020 2:50 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:
I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.
An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts