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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

David Wiggs
 

ACL had Pullman Standard build them some boxcars with roof hatches in the 1960s to haul kailin.  These steel cars had the bracing on the outside, were painted white or light grey and had red lettering.  Tichy, I believe, sells decals for these cars.  A SC buddy of mine made some in 1-48 scale back in the late 1980s.
 
davo in Orlando

Re: Swift paint scheme

Patrick Wade
 

Sorry I will not make it to the swap meet. We have been prepping for a huge family weeding all week. Tomorrow is the day.

Pat


On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Bill Kelly <wbkelly@...> wrote:


This negative was for sale on ebay. No, I didn't buy it.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:35:52 -0500 "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> writes:
Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
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Re: Swift paint scheme

Bill Kelly
 

This negative was for sale on ebay. No, I didn't buy it.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:35:52 -0500 "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> writes:

Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 


 


Re: Sorry for the delay

Pierre Oliver
 

The Buckeye Cushion trucks shown were one of 4 different styles of trucks that these cars were built with.
I've chosen to supply those because they've suddenly become available

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 11/01/19 9:44 a.m., Kemal Mumcu via Groups.Io wrote:

They look great Pierre. Did you swap Tahoe trucks for the odd looking resin trucks (Elsey?) that your display models have?

Colin Meikle

Re: Sorry for the delay

Kemal Mumcu
 

They look great Pierre. Did you swap Tahoe trucks for the odd looking resin trucks (Elsey?) that your display models have?

Colin Meikle

Sorry for the delay

Pierre Oliver
 

The new kits from Yarmouth Model Works are now up on the website
http://www.yarmouthmodelworks.com/index.php/ResinModelKits/Index

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

Re: Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
There are some additional nice images to be seen on this website that Bob has introduced us to...
 
CB&Q flat
 
GN box and some stock cars
 
Yard scene boxcars and reefers
 
National Dairy Despatch reefer
 
CB&Q boxcar
 
C&NW stock cars
 
C&NW box cars
 
Yard view boxcars and reefers
 
CB&Q slab-side side dump ballast hoppers
 
Gons with pipe load (possibly C&NW USRA composite type)
 
RI flat with pre-fabricated building load
 
CB&Q boxcars
 
Lastly, if you want to model an accurate watermelon load inside a stock car, this is for you!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:12 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System

Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System

Images from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/F0BD661F-BC3D-425E-810D-843799030680

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/50DC1CEE-418E-41CB-9DF8-874250341613

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/6D94F0F3-7251-49B6-A2F7-332525560229

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/B2EF2C20-BEA1-4C72-8E5E-494386272591

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/C302AC8D-964C-4610-B70E-863105150773

Click on the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup

Re: Swift paint scheme

Richard Townsend
 

Some car shops had narrow gauge tracks for carts used to bring materials to the cars.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

Is that a narrow gauge, maybe 2 foot, track parallel to the car?  It sure appears to be flanges ways.
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme
 
Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme
This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 



Re: Evergreen Styrene Quality Control

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bill and List Members,
 
Bill wrote: "I bought some 2x2 styrene strip (#8202) and find it to be noticeably rectangular"
 
Bill, I have felt this was always the case - the small dimension styrene strip square stock is slightly rectangular. When you think about it, this is actually somewhat reasonable - one dimension is determined by the thickness of the original sheet stock that the strip is cut from, the other dimension is determined by the sawing process used to cut the strip. It would be quite easy for one to deviate slightly from the other, even with a good faith attempt on Evergreen's part to make them the same.
 
The way I handle this is I take a strip out of the package, and then use a black magic marker to blacken one of the four sides. Then, as I do my construction, orient the strip so the blackened side always faces the same direction. It doesn't really matter which direction, as long as it is always the same. While this does not solve the problem entirely, at least all the strips applied this way have the error oriented the same way, and this helps lessen the impact of the problem.
 
As an aside, I'll say this: Bill, I've greatly appreciated your tutorial type posts to this list, they have helped me expand my modeling skills, I feel honored to be able to return that gift if even in the smallest of ways.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Welch
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:44 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Evergreen Styrene Quality Control

I often use Evergreen's 0.005 sheet styrene cutting it into any number of widths of strip or shapes (I have no actual life) and have through the years developed a feel for it. Recently while handling it I noticed it felt differently so I got my Mitutoyo Digital Caliper and found it to actually be 0.0065" thick. I have tried both calling and emailing Evergreen to let them know with no response.

Since then I bought some 2x2 styrene strip (#8202) and find it to be noticeably rectangular. Anyone else noticing slippage in quality control at Evergreen?

Wondering if anyone here might have a reliable way to contact Evergreen—maybe they know someone there? I am willing to make the contact, just need a way through the door so-to-speak.

Bill Welch

Re: Swift paint scheme

Bruce Smith
 

Gary,

It was not uncommon for RIP tracks to have these narrow gauge tracks for hand carts to haul materials.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Oct 31, 2019, at 4:45 PM, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

Is that a narrow gauge, maybe 2 foot, track parallel to the car?  It sure appears to be flanges ways.
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme
 
Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
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Re: Swift paint scheme

Brent Greer
 

Just playing the uninformed Devil's advocate, is it at all possible that there was some kind of test involved here that had the opposite sides of this car painted in different schemes?  (Just questioning the white lettering on the end of the car and the reason it might have gotten the 360 view photo documentation)

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme
 
Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 


Re: Swift paint scheme

gary laakso
 

Is that a narrow gauge, maybe 2 foot, track parallel to the car?  It sure appears to be flanges ways.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

 

Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?

 

Steve Hile

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.

Later,

Bill Kelly

 

 




Re: Swift paint scheme

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 


Re: Swift paint scheme

Bill Kelly
 


This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Tim O'Connor
 

Elden, PRR X31A 79156 (w/ roof hatches) was photographed in Pueblo Colorado.

On 10/31/2019 12:58 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
Gang;

I looked through my materials and only found two instances on the PRR:

X29K sub-class with round roof hatches; apparently in loose flour service, and,

X31A small number of random cars in coal tar chip service, like the attached I modeled.

Elden Gatwood
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Tim O'Connor
 

Fred

Overland imported original and rebuilt cars, including a single door version.



On 10/31/2019 11:04 AM, Fred Jansz wrote:
Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box.
It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car.
Any idea what it might be?
regards
Fred Jansz

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts

gtws00
 

Don,
I use Chrome for a Browser. When select each one to download, they go to my download folder and I retrieve them from that location
In my Chrome Browser, they also show at the very bottom left hand side of the browser
George Toman

Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Charlie Vlk
 

Could be for hauling dried processed sewage from the IC subsidiary Illinois Northern which could get it from the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago.   The MSDC had their own dump cars which presumably hauled the wet “product” to dumps on the IN and there, after drying, it was further processed.   I know you could get dump truck loads of the stuff delivered in the Chicago area; don’t know if it was bagged and shipped elsewhere or if it was shipped bulk without packaging out of the area.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 11:31 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

 

The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad.  I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Bob

A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN,
HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH
all had box cars with roof hatches.

And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too.

Tim



On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

Boxcar With Roof Hatches

I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain.

All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest.

Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System

Bob Chaparro
 

Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Oct 31, 2019, at 08:31, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Are these supposed to be downloadable so they can be printed if desired? If so that does not seem to be working.
I just snarfed 'em all; I have Firefox[0] configured to default to download pdf, doc, docx, xls, xlsx, and other formats and to ask me where to save them.

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