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Re: Photo: UTLX 95870 - For Extreme Tank Car Modeling

Todd Sullivan
 

Bob,

I suspect that the tank cars were carrying LPG or a similar flammable gas, not oil.  Oil burns, gas explodes, and the piece of shrapnel on this UTLX ICC 105 pressure tank car was likely the wrapper on another similar car that exploded.  Here's a You Tube video of a modern 33,000 gallon LPG tank car that caught fire and exploded in the 1980s as a result of a derailment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-tUQTw_Vtk

Todd Sullivan


Re: Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob,
 
Thanks for the great set of images.
 
On this specific one, I think can make out Chicago Rock Island & Pacific on the flat car side
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

An undated photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1622358/

Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further.

Description: "Photograph of nine African-American men and three White men adjacent to nine flatbed cars loaded with baled cotton in Kell, OK."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Re :PACIFIC ELECTRIC BOXCAR BRAKE ARRANGEMENT

radiodial868
 

That was me 2 years ago who was looking. Time flies.  Terry Salmans at the Perris museum came though with a bunch of pictures and posted them on the Pacific Electric Facebook page. I then built my flatcar to reflect the odd outside handbrake linkage. Results attached. I see that Jason just posted how to do it just this April on the Owl Mountain website. I should go compare how close I got.
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

Jon Miller
 

On 7/7/2020 8:43 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

    Interesting that the fellow on the far right has a pistol in his belt.  I'm wondering what this picture is really showing?

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Photo: Icing FHIX Reefer 964 & SFRD At Waynoka, OK

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Icing FHIX Reefer 964 & SFRD At Waynoka, OK

A 1952 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc636895/?q=train

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Description: " "The Thing," looking like a pre-historic monster that escaped from a glacier, ices down a 104-car potato train at the Waynoka plant of the Railways Ice & Service Co. on the Santa Fe's main freight line."

The Railways Ice Company ice plant was a major re-icing facility and division point on the Santa Fe. It was one of the country's largest ice production facilities.

This ice plant could produce up to 241 tons of ice daily. Railways Ice had a long term contract for icing and services with the Santa Fe at Chicago, Kansas City, Waynoka, Belen and Needles. The plant in Waynoka previously was owned by the Kansas Ice Company.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: UTLX 95870 - For Extreme Tank Car Modeling

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: UTLX 95870 - For Extreme Tank Car Modeling

A 1958 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc196209/?q=railroad

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Description: "A daylight photograph of a railroad tank car wrapped in debris caused by the derailment and explosion of oil-filled tank cars at Shattuck in Ellis County, Oklahoma."

Will anyone bring a model of this car to a prototype modelers meet?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: FGEX 36330 At Rock Island Yard

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: FGEX 36330 At Rock Island Yard

A circa 1945 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1116212/?q=railroad

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Description: "Photograph of the Rock Island Railroad Marshalling Yard on the east side of downtown Oklahoma City. Photo taken by Meyers Photo Shop, c. 1945."

There are a lot of freight cars in the photo but only FGEX 36330 is easily identified.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Bailed Cotton On Flat Cars

An undated photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1622358/

Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further.

Description: "Photograph of nine African-American men and three White men adjacent to nine flatbed cars loaded with baled cotton in Kell, OK."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: RI Boxcar 141137 - Hide Loading Only

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: RI Boxcar 141137 - Hide Loading Only

A 1959 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1587593/?q=railroad

Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further.

Description: "Photograph of Rock Island Railroad cars on the Rock Island Railroad tracks, East Yard, Bricktown, Oklahoma City, OK."

This is about as low a service as any boxcar would see.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: UTLX 47072 Crowley Tar Products

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: UTLX 47072 Crowley Tar Products

A 1959 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1123983/?q=railroad

Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: V-1 Weapon On MP Flat Car 8171

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: V-1 Weapon On MP Flat Car 8171

A 1945 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc262590/?q=train

Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further.

With more of these the Missouri Pacific could have held off the Union Pacific for several more years.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Jack Wyatt asked:
"I wonder what the body color was for the original Atlantic Coast Dispatch vent's?"

Yellow, with red herald.


Ben Hom


Re: Hindsight 2020 RPM Appreciation

Jim Hayes
 

Me too Tom. I just turned 80, I'm in delicate health and don't leave home.
Hindsight 2020 was perfect for me too, except for interruptions at home. 
Wish I could have put it on hold at certain times.

Jim Hayes

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:25 AM Mont Switzer <MSwitzer@...> wrote:

Well said, Tom.

 

Mont Switzer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Madden via groups.io [pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 3:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hindsight 2020 RPM Appreciation

As an octogenarian living alone I can't afford to put myself in any situation that carries the risk of hospitalization. Until there's a vaccine or effective outpatient treatment for the virus I won't be doing any commercial traveling or participating in group activities. The Hindsight 2020 RPM was tailor made for those like me and I hope these virtual meetings continue. There were two interrelated aspects that I really, really liked - no rows of heads obscuring portions of the screen, and the images on the screen were right here on my high definition computer monitor and not 30 feet away. As a single-track event I got to see several presentations I would not have chosen to attend at a multi-track live meet, and learned some new things as a result. Yes, I missed seeing old friends, walking on the beach and having the opportunity to write a large check to Bob Liljestrand at the end of the day, but a virtual meet is a very desirable alternative to a live meet. And as Ken says, it makes presentations available to those who can't come to live meets.

Tom Madden


Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars

C J Wyatt
 

I wonder what the body color was for the original Atlantic Coast Dispatch vent's?

I should know, but it hasn't stuck in my mind. Appreciate it!

Jack Wyatt


Re: Hindsight 2020 RPM Appreciation

Mont Switzer
 

Well said, Tom.

 

Mont Switzer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Madden via groups.io [pullmanboss@...]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 3:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hindsight 2020 RPM Appreciation

As an octogenarian living alone I can't afford to put myself in any situation that carries the risk of hospitalization. Until there's a vaccine or effective outpatient treatment for the virus I won't be doing any commercial traveling or participating in group activities. The Hindsight 2020 RPM was tailor made for those like me and I hope these virtual meetings continue. There were two interrelated aspects that I really, really liked - no rows of heads obscuring portions of the screen, and the images on the screen were right here on my high definition computer monitor and not 30 feet away. As a single-track event I got to see several presentations I would not have chosen to attend at a multi-track live meet, and learned some new things as a result. Yes, I missed seeing old friends, walking on the beach and having the opportunity to write a large check to Bob Liljestrand at the end of the day, but a virtual meet is a very desirable alternative to a live meet. And as Ken says, it makes presentations available to those who can't come to live meets.

Tom Madden


Re: Trucks?

Dennis Storzek
 

Not Vulcan, rather some sort of Andrews patent truck. Vulcan trucks had the end of the sideframe encircle the journal box, which fit in the resulting slot, and retained by a horizontal bolt through a lug on the sideframe directly behind the journal lid hinge. I'm not seeing this lug, nor does the sideframe extend far enough to encircle the outer side of the journal box. Meanwhile, although the poor quality of the photo makes it hard to see, I think I'm seeing vertical bolts alongside the journal boxes. Those are the spotting feature of the Andrews design. Andrews trucks don't have to have the horizontal strap to the bottom of the journal; some had the strap drop at a 45 deg. angle from a bracket cast on the sideframe, as here.

Dennis Storzek


Poultry Car Gallery

Andy Laurent
 


Re: fire truck delivered in Oregon on a PRR end-door box car

Benjamin Hom
 

Bruce Smith wrote:
"IIRC, the X30 was PRR's first end door car."

Class X25A had end doors.
Ben Hom


Re: Trucks?

Bill Welch
 

In the product description the Trucks are ID'ed as 55-ton Vulcan.

Bill Welch


Re: Trucks?

Todd Sullivan
 

Hmmm, on a sudden hunch, I checked my Cory Bonsall model of a Utah Coal Route GS gondola, and it has similar looking trucks under it.  I don't know enough about D&RGW freight cars to know if they had composite GS gondolas or not.  Cory's models show the similar truck under both the Utah Coal Route and D&RGW 40' and 42' GS gondolas - see
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-3D-Printed-D-RGW-Offset-GS-Gondola-42ft-45k-Series-Single-Kit/232442939371?hash=item361eadc7eb:g:JJoAAOSw~y9ZCP49

Todd Sullivan