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(Terms For Freight Car Parts)

Bob Webber
 

Yes (thanks!)...I likely should have added an emoticon or whatever - I have known Tony (longer than he's known me...) and he wouldn't apply anything like that on purpose - and it was wrong of me to not indicate that much. (and I hope no one takes it that I laugh at someone ...I tend now to only laugh at the idiosyncratic mannerisms that I recognize in myself)

As for "proper" vs "preferred/correct" - there was a reason for doing so - the term is shorter and fit the subject...sorry for that confusion.

Many of the non-preferred/incorrect usages come from a conflation of function and "name". For instance - RPO - the term is about function - not type of car (which is mail or postal) - it is prop..er...correctly used when referring to the function of the car - specifically when clerks are working the car. People have since ascribed the function as the type of car. ("Well ..even the Federal Government calls them RPO!" - no ...they call the function RPO).

Stirrup, roof walk, - even outside braced all refer to the assumed functions of that part not the proper terminology for that part. People see a stirrup used to help climb into a saddle and then use the term to name a part that seemingly functions in the same (or similar) manner. Same with roof walk - not knowing the proper term, they name it after the function - literally walking on roofs. The real problem is that people tend to miss the true function of an object because they are programmed to see things that are similar and that is the reference point.


At 06:37 PM 8/24/2019, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io wrote:
Congratulations Bob Webber because if one can't laugh at themselves they have no right to laugh at anyone else!

My best, Don Valentine
Bob Webber

Square corner RC box cars

Clark Propst
 

I just got some Red Caboose 1937 box car kits. Two of the kits are from the CL CGW mini-kit from a couple years ago. Upon inspection the two Des Plaines Hobbies undec kits appear to be square corner models. Were all the CL/DP kits square corner? If in fact they are I would like to sell the two I have or trade them for (W) round corner kits.

If interested in buying or trading please contact me off list at cepropst@q.com
Thanks
CW Propst

Re: MEK Substitute and current plastic cements

gnryfan
 

Our local Lowe's has it...Ace is too small a volume to bother with it any more.
Joe Berger
Indiana

Re: Square corner RC box cars

O Fenton Wells
 

Clark, I can trade the two sq corners for W corners.  If you want I will check my stock


On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 11:07 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I just got some Red Caboose 1937 box car kits. Two of the kits are from the CL CGW mini-kit from a couple years ago. Upon inspection the two Des Plaines Hobbies undec kits appear to be square corner models. Were all the CL/DP kits square corner? If in fact they are I would like to sell the two I have or trade them for (W) round corner kits.

If interested in buying or trading please contact me off list at cepropst@q.com
Thanks
CW Propst



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PM box car - unusual ends?

Richard Brennan
 

Ref: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-25-19/X7535.jpg

From the Erie Lakawanna list, PM 91493 - double-door steel box car on the left...
What type of end is this?
Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin ...

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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Richard Townsend
 

Without knowing the proper nomenclature <g>, I would say it is a reversed 3-3-3 dreadnaught end.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Brennan <rbrennan@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 9:07 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PM box car - unusual ends?


From the Erie Lakawanna list, PM 91493 - double-door steel box car on the left...
What type of end is this?
Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin ...

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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Richard Townsend
 

or 2-3-3.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PM box car - unusual ends?

Without knowing the proper nomenclature <g>, I would say it is a reversed 3-3-3 dreadnaught end.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Brennan <rbrennan@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 9:07 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PM box car - unusual ends?


From the Erie Lakawanna list, PM 91493 - double-door steel box car on the left...
What type of end is this?
Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin ...

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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Susquehanna 40’ boxcars c1940-48

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas

I am seeking info on early steel or wood 40’ boxcars.   Build dates type etc appreciated!    I only see repaint images in the green scheme in my searches.  Of course a black white image would be perfect.

Many thanks for any help,
Brad Andonian 



Re: Susquehanna 40’ boxcars c1940-48

al_brown03
 

I'm away from my '43 ORER, but I'm not sure if NYS&W had any 40' boxcars in the forties. They had ex-Erie 36' Fowler boxcars (Westerfield 4300-series kits). I'll look when I get home. 

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Tim O'Connor
 

You're looking at the backside view of most dreadnaught ends (with variations
in the number of ribs and panels). Some call them "reverse dreadnaughts" and I've
heard "inverse dreadnaught" as well.

On 8/25/2019 12:07 PM, Richard Brennan wrote:
Ref: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-25-19/X7535.jpg

From the Erie Lakawanna list, PM 91493 - double-door steel box car on the left...
What type of end is this?
Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin-Fat... Thin-thin ...

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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Murphy Rectangular Panel roof

 

Does anyone have or know of a source for a rectangular panel roof for a 50' boxcar? I have a Branchline Blueprint series car that I need this for. As a last resort I could probably modify a couple of 40' Atlas AAR roofs to work. Any comments would be helpful.  

Thanks in advance,

Dave Strahlendorf
Erlanger, Ky

Re: Murphy Rectangular Panel roof

Tim O'Connor
 


Tom Madden years ago made replacement cast resin roofs (using spliced
IMWX/RC roofs for the master) for the Proto 2000 box cars that had incorrect
roofs. The roofs drop right onto the Branchline car body.

This would be a GOOD PART for Pierre to add to the Yarmouth product line. :-)

Tim O'Connor




On 8/25/2019 2:35 PM, Dave Strahlendorf wrote:
Does anyone have or know of a source for a rectangular panel roof for a 50' boxcar? I have a Branchline Blueprint series car that I need this for. As a last resort I could probably modify a couple of 40' Atlas AAR roofs to work. Any comments would be helpful.  

Thanks in advance,

Dave Strahlendorf
Erlanger, Ky

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

You're looking at the backside view of most dreadnaught ends (with variations
in the number of ribs and panels). Some call them "reverse dreadnaughts" and I've
heard "inverse dreadnaught" as well.
I don't see this as a reverse end at all. I think people are being confused by the two wider ribs, probably located at seams where pieces of the end are joined together. It might be a RECESSED end, in which the corrugations look pressed INTO the end, rather than proud of its surface, but I'm not sure if that's the case.

Tony Thompson
tony@...

HO Styrene brake lever pairs

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

I have more Cal Scale plastic brake levers that I could use in multiple lifetimes.

I am offering sprues of 6 pairs of these HO brake levers. All are equipped with 3 cores for wires and pins.
Buyer to get 6 pairs of a single large lever and a 2nd smaller lever (enough for 6 freight cars) for $2.50. These are the levers which came in the Cal Scale AB Brake set for many years. I will include shipping with this price.

These are all new old stock. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I also accept PayPal. As always, please contact me Off-List at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy

Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Schleigh Mike
 

The book, PM Revenue Freight Cars, Million & Paton, page 92, refers to these ends as "three-piece "recessed" type Dreadnaught ends."

Regards from Sunny Grove City in western Penna......Mike Schleigh

On Sunday, August 25, 2019, 3:02:28 PM EDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Tim O'Connor wrote:

> You're looking at the backside view of most dreadnaught ends (with variations
> in the number of ribs and panels). Some call them "reverse dreadnaughts" and I've
> heard "inverse dreadnaught" as well.

    I don't see this as a reverse end at all. I think people are being confused by the two wider ribs, probably located at seams where pieces of the end are joined together. It might be a RECESSED end, in which the corrugations look pressed INTO the end, rather than proud of its surface, but I'm not sure if that's the case.

Tony Thompson
tony@...





Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Donald B. Valentine
 

    The end is made of three pieces and the fat part is where they are joined, either riveted or welded,
I can't tell for sure in the photo but it looks like they are welded.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: PM box car - unusual ends?

Tom Madden
 

Looks a lot like this, I bet!

Tom Madden

Re: Susquehanna 40’ boxcars c1940-48

Donald B. Valentine
 

    The Susie-Q had 49 cars that were 36 ft. DOMINION cars by April 1948, never mind the Fowler car nonsense
as in the photos I have seen NO Erie Dominion cars used the unnecessary, and expensive, Fowler patent.The
same cars were present in the July 1947 ORER but no 40 ft. cars are shown in either. By July 1959 there were
9 Dominion cars left and two 40 ft. cars, #401 and #402 had been added. The Dominion cars were rated at 80,000
lbs. and the two steel cars at 100,000 lbs. Interestngly there were no other cars on the road at this later date other
than 10 cabeese.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Murphy Rectangular Panel roof

Tom Madden
 

On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:55 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Tom Madden years ago made replacement cast resin roofs (using spliced
IMWX/RC roofs for the master) for the Proto 2000 box cars that had incorrect
roofs. The roofs drop right onto the Branchline car body.
Aaannnnnd..... he still does. Also 50' Viking replacement roofs. Just checked and I have ten RP roofs and seven Vikings on hand. Contact me OFF LIST (that's OFF LIST) at pullmanboss (at) yahoo (dot) com for details.

Tom Madden
 

Re: Murphy Rectangular Panel roof

 

Thanks Tim & Tom....message has been sent OFF LIST.

Dave Strahlendorf