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Re: Lime Unloading IC/LTRR Gondola

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Group!

In my observations it is not at all unusual for bulk agricultural lime to be shipped in mill gondolas, even those of 65' inside length.  Any free roaming car would be a candidate.

How to unload them is always an interesting solution to find.  Manual labor comes to mind.

Regards from sunny & dry Grove City in Western Penna.

Mike Schleigh

On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 1:22:00 PM EDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


A Lake Terminal mill gondola pressed into bulk material service. Interesting. F&C produces an HO scale resin kit for this gondola. A few lettering styles are available, including this one. 

While bulk loads in a mill gon are not typical, they have occurred. I one found a photo of a 61-foot Western Maryland mill gon loaded with coal. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Sep 8, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Matt Smith <flyn96@...> wrote:

Lime unloading from gondolas.

Another great images from the IDA Pantagraph Collection 
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll35/id/32654/rec/286

--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL

Re: Lime Unloading IC/LTRR Gondola

Eric Hansmann
 

Here's the image of WM 50519 loaded with coal. This 61-foot mill gon was built in the late 1920s. The photo is dated 1936/08/05.

https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/001972



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On September 8, 2019 at 11:21 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

A Lake Terminal mill gondola pressed into bulk material service. Interesting. F&C produces an HO scale resin kit for this gondola. A few lettering styles are available, including this one. 

While bulk loads in a mill gon are not typical, they have occurred. I one found a photo of a 61-foot Western Maryland mill gon loaded with coal. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Sep 8, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Matt Smith < flyn96@...> wrote:

Lime unloading from gondolas.

Another great images from the IDA Pantagraph Collection 
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll35/id/32654/rec/286

--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


 


 

Rapido USRA box--order deadline tomorrow

spsalso
 

Yup.  So Rapido has said.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)

C J Wyatt
 

If interested, please hit "Reply to Sender" (not group).

I can sell them together or separately. The drill press is the model with a tilt head so that it can drill at an angle. It is missing the Albrecht keyless chuck and needs a couple of minor repairs, such as soldering a motor lead wire and the Z-axis take-up spindle is bent. It still works but the knob wobbles as you turn it.

With the right chuck, you can use drills smaller than #80. 

The X-Y table was made by Al Brazelton to fit his drill press.

Jack Wyatt

Re: Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)

Ralph W. Brown
 

Jack,
 
Just so you know, “Reply to Sender” does not work for all systems, including mine.  Providing your email address in some form, “rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com” for example, works for all.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: C J Wyatt
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)
 
If interested, please hit "Reply to Sender" (not group).

I can sell them together or separately. The drill press is the model with a tilt head so that it can drill at an angle. It is missing the Albrecht keyless chuck and needs a couple of minor repairs, such as soldering a motor lead wire and the Z-axis take-up spindle is bent. It still works but the knob wobbles as you turn it.

With the right chuck, you can use drills smaller than #80.

The X-Y table was made by Al Brazelton to fit his drill press.

Jack Wyatt

Re: Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)

C J Wyatt
 

I appreciate that info Ralph. I'll keep that in mind in future posts.

Jack

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 12:09:18 AM EDT, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:


Jack,
 
Just so you know, “Reply to Sender” does not work for all systems, including mine.  Providing your email address in some form, “rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com” for example, works for all.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: C J Wyatt
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)
 
If interested, please hit "Reply to Sender" (not group).

I can sell them together or separately. The drill press is the model with a tilt head so that it can drill at an angle. It is missing the Albrecht keyless chuck and needs a couple of minor repairs, such as soldering a motor lead wire and the Z-axis take-up spindle is bent. It still works but the knob wobbles as you turn it.

With the right chuck, you can use drills smaller than #80.

The X-Y table was made by Al Brazelton to fit his drill press.

Jack Wyatt

Re: Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)

C J Wyatt
 

Oops! I should have hit "reply to sender". 

cjwyatt<at>bellsouth<dot>net

Of course, one usually can extract the email address for the sender from the post.

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 12:12:43 AM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:


I appreciate that info Ralph. I'll keep that in mind in future posts.

Jack

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 12:09:18 AM EDT, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:


Jack,
 
Just so you know, “Reply to Sender” does not work for all systems, including mine.  Providing your email address in some form, “rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com” for example, works for all.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: C J Wyatt
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)
 
If interested, please hit "Reply to Sender" (not group).

I can sell them together or separately. The drill press is the model with a tilt head so that it can drill at an angle. It is missing the Albrecht keyless chuck and needs a couple of minor repairs, such as soldering a motor lead wire and the Z-axis take-up spindle is bent. It still works but the knob wobbles as you turn it.

With the right chuck, you can use drills smaller than #80.

The X-Y table was made by Al Brazelton to fit his drill press.

Jack Wyatt

Re: Brazelton 80+ Sensitive Drill Press and X-Y Table (for sale)

Scott
 


 Just use the "Private" button on lower right of chat box.  It only replies to sender.

Scott McDonald

Hurricane Dorina

Mikebrock
 

Guys,

I would like to inform those interested in the RPM meet [ Prototype Rails ] held in Cocoa Beach Jan 9-11, that the Cocoa Beach Oceanview Hilton Hotel suffered NO damage from Hurricane Dorina’s recent visit.

 

We are, of course, in the 2019 hurricane season which won’t end until November.

 

From NOAA:

 

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA): NOAA predicts a “near-normal” 2019 Atlantic hurricane season with up to 15 named storms with winds of at least 39 mph. But, of these, NOAA predicts, four to eight could turn into hurricanes of 74 mph or greater and two to four of these storms could strengthen into major Category 3, 4, or 5 storms. So "normal," doesn't exactly mean quiet.

 

We will continue to monitor the storm season and its effect on Prototype Rails. BTW, in the 20 yrs of operating the meet, we have had only one disruption caused by a hurricane and the show still went on.

 

Mike Brock

Prototype Rails and STMFC Bossman

 

 

 

 

Re: Lime Unloading IC/LTRR Gondola

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Eric,

In the late 19790s when I was at an inter-service school at Ft. Harrison, Indiana, I photographed a mill gondola of coal being unloaded for the base heating plant. Conrail had also provided a tracked crane with a clamshell bucket similar to the one in the Illinois photo, the whole rig mounted temporarily on a flatcar for the unloading. Sadly, I don't have the slide anymore.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 9/8/2019 1:21 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
A Lake Terminal mill gondola pressed into bulk material service. Interesting. F&C produces an HO scale resin kit for this gondola. A few lettering styles are available, including this one. 

While bulk loads in a mill gon are not typical, they have occurred. I one found a photo of a 61-foot Western Maryland mill gon loaded with coal. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Sep 8, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Matt Smith <flyn96@...> wrote:

Lime unloading from gondolas.

Another great images from the IDA Pantagraph Collection 
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll35/id/32654/rec/286

--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL

Re: Rapido USRA box--order deadline tomorrow

Bill Welch
 

Be aware that the TH&B cars acquired from the NYC and rebuilt in 1943 had their doors and associated hardware replaced with doors and hardware similar if not identical to those on 50-ton USRA SS cars. Not sure if Rapido cars model this change.

Bill Welch

Re: Crappy Job

Doug Polinder
 

Alex, thanks for this amazing anecdote.  I rode a Michigan Northern excursion in 1983 from Rockford to Cedar Springs.  Also rode the C&O car ferry to Kewaunee (or maybe Manitowoc? don't remember) in 1984.  What do you suppose the destination of the scrap leather was in Milwaukee?  Did the load also come via the C&O car ferry and interchange at Reed City?  Another potential routing was the Grand Trunk car ferry and then interchange at Grand Rapids to the MIGN.

The Michigan rail network has been pretty well decimated since that time.  The tracks from Grand Rapids through Rockford to Cadillac (ex GR&I, ex-PRR, ex-PC, ex-CR [?], ex-MIGN) have been gone since the mid-1980s, as have the line to Ludington, the car-ferry service, and much other C&O (ex-PM) trackage, as well as most of the Ann Arbor, etc., etc.

Doug Polinder
Poquoson VA

Express reefers?

Bob Werre
 

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

Matthew Hurst
 

Well Bob.....

Where do you model , what do you model and when?  The answer to these questions would help in narrowing it down.

Matthew  


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 AM Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

Bob Miller
 

The Santa Fe would run multiple express reefers in the Fast Mail for fresh fruit, e.g. strawberries. That would have ended in the 1960’s, maybe even the late 50’s as that traffic shifted to trucks.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 11:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Express reefers?

 

Well Bob.....

 

Where do you model , what do you model and when?  The answer to these questions would help in narrowing it down.

 

Matthew  

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 AM Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Werre asked:
"I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush."

The answer is yes (examination of photos PRR mail and express trains often turn up multiple Class R50B and toher express reefers), but your question casts an extremely wide net.  We need more information about your layout concept.  Main or branch?  "Too many" express reefers for originating traffic, or do you run bridge traffic, including dedicated mail and express?  What part of the year?  Remember that express reefers were used for time-critical shipments, so items such as medicine, the first harvest of higher value produce such as berries, flowers, etc..


Ben Hom

Re: Express reefers?

C J Wyatt
 

Express reefers have been known to run in freight trains, sometimes when returning empty, so my opinion is that they are fair game for STMFC. Other opinions may vary.

Jack Wyatt

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:


I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

npin53
 
Edited

The NP ran cherry trains as a second section of the Eastbound Alaskan. A Pacific, a string of NRC express reefers, and caboose. Up to 8-9 reefers.

Re: Express reefers?

Lloyd Keyser
 

The C&NW would run solid express reefer trains as required off the UP connection in Omaha. These trains were known to run upwards of 15 to 20 cars and pulled by the big Hudson's at passenger train speed. In general they called them cherry trains. One is shown East bound on the Linn County cut off on the south side of Cedar Rapids, IA. on page 20 of Chicago and North Western In Color Volume I. After arriving in Chicago the train was immediately broken up for the eastern roads.   Lloyd Keyser


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
Express reefers have been known to run in freight trains, sometimes when returning empty, so my opinion is that they are fair game for STMFC. Other opinions may vary.

Jack Wyatt

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:


I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Bondic

Jared Harper
 

Anyone tried the new glue Bondic advertised on You Tube?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA