The SP&S signed a contract in Sep 1910 with Associated Oil for 3 years that made it cheaper than coal - "The North Bank Road" by Gaertner, which got it out on NP Roslyn Coal, It took a year to convert

Would anyone perchance have a late forties tariff or route from the N&W, NYC, PRR or other coal source, over Winona RR to the Chicago area? (the interchanges were at Warsaw and New Paris IN) reference

2 cents on the Wabash <-> UP interchange, from 1947/1954 Copeland reports, 80K+ loads at KC, 3900+ at Council Bluffs, <10 at Omaha, < 20 at South Omaha. -- Allen Rueter StLouis MO

count of car ownership thru Bieber 1947 4th quarter ending 07, total 257 GN 53 - (37 were log flats that don't go to the WP) ATSF 28 PFE 16 DRGW 15 PRR 10 NP 9 SP 8 CBQ 7 FGE MILW UP WFE WP 6 NYC SFRD

GN 40 PFE 22 DRGW 21 SP 17 WP 15 ATSF 14 UP 13 PRR 11 FGE NYC 10 NP 8 MILW 6 ART BO PM SHPX 5 CNW SFRD SOU 4 AOX CBQ CN CRIP MP UCR UTL 3 GTW GWEX IC LA LUX MDT NKP NSTL SOO WAB 2 Strays: ACL BM BRE C

The page is in the photo section under an album called Logs and wheel reports etc Allen Rueter

Pending the list sherif's approval, I've uploaded a photo of page 05 of Bieber 1947 q4 inter change. Here's my take 005 Rg GN MP KCS RG cnw Rg At Milw nyc Q At PFE UCR NP Rdg Q WP Gtw At SP NP RG (alm

Lou, Thanks, I forgot to add it to my normalizing table. -- Allen Rueter StLouis MO ________________________________ To: STMFC@... Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:42:57 PM Subject: Re: [STM

cars ending 04 thru Bieber 1947 4th quarter GN 38 ATSF 24 PFE 16 WP 16 DRGW 14 SP 12 IC 10 PRR, SFRD, SOU 9 CBQ , CNW 6 ART, MP, NP, SAL, UTLX 4 BO, FGE, MILW, NKP, NYC 3 CSVX, IGN, LAPX, LN, MDT, PLE

Dave, I'll have to think about how to do that, the pages are about 14x17, much bigger than a common scanner, to thick for a drum scanner that I have access to at work. I could try just a corner. -- Al

Rob, There are no types, you'll have to have an ORER handy, if you want to help with making a type table, just left me know. I sure a few people have some railroad's types memorized. -- Allen Rueter S

the space goes in front CN 479_02 should be CN 479202, a pair of pages for 02 has 002, 102, 202, ...,902 -- Allen Rueter StLouis MO ________________________________ To: STMFC@... Sent: Sun

Cars through Bieber 1947 4th Quarter, numbers ending 03 - 258 cars GN 45 PFE 22 ATSF 20 PRR 13 SP 11 UP 10 NYC 10 DRGW 9 WP 8 CBQ 8 WFE 6 NP 5 LN 5 SFRD, Milw MDT GWEX BO 4 Wab UCR TP RDG CO CNW 3 AOX

Doesn't seem so high to me when you look at it as 135+ north and 135+ south, come close to possibly match the time-tables. Also the GN passed traffic to the SP at K Falls, that came out of Spokane & M

Just one CN 47902 -- Allen Rueter StLouis MO

Cars through Bieber 1947 4th quarter ending 02 GN - 35 ATSF - 27 PFE - 23 DRGW - 21 WP - 13 SP - 12 UP - 10 PRR - 10 Milw - 10 NYC - 7 NP - 6 IC - 6 CRIP - 6 WFE - 5 MDT - 5 ART - 5 FGE - 5 Wab - 3 UC

Well craps, these are the *01 cars, not *02

Al, Actually my interests lie a little further north, the OT, if you have a GN time table, does it not show the ruling grades?, the one steam era one I saw once did. GN was known for trying to run tra

That would be OT/SP&S trains on the twisty part from Wishram to Bend with 1.5% grade they did use a lot of GN power , GN Bend to Bieber, IIRC there max grade was about 1.5 too. Time will tell as I go

Al, I'm working on transcribing what some refer to as a jumbo book, it is a log of cars received and forwarded at Bieber 1947, Oct-Dec. The log book is ordered by the last two digits, with in a pair o