If they started building these cars in 1915 (as indicated in the post from the Santa Fe Modelers), does anyone know what railroads leased these for the period from 1915 to 1920? Cyril Durrenberger Ric

I have to agree with Richard, but I would go one step forward. I think that any one interested in freight cars ought to have this set of excellent, state of the art books. Cyril Durrenberger Anthony T

I had the same experience for the SP annual reports. Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote: Cyril Durrenberger wrote: The ones I've seen which went to the California Railroad Commission

Another interesting item that I located was a large book on a court case involving rates in Texas. It seems that some valuations (likely the data from the annual reports to the reailroad commission) w

Dennis, I think you are correct on the updating. I looked at the valuation files for the HE&WT, H&TC and some other SP lines. There was nothing in the files beyond the initial data. And what we were g

Another source of general data on car fleets is the railroad reports to the state railroad commission. These typically have a list of the number of locomotives, passenger cars and freight cars listed

The ICC valuation records do not provide good roster information and they were done at a given date, usually prior to 1920. Another problem is that the same approach was not done for every railroad. C

I think the early ORER's were not as accurate, certainly prior to 1912 or 1913. I am not sure what happened to change things. They began to also report additional dimensions like size of door openings

Could you please tell us the exact time period these cover. Cyril Durrenberger nfryumbc <borhsarchives@...> wrote: The B&O Railroad Historical Society is happy to announce that a selection of st

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...> wrote: Cyril, I like your approach, but two comment/questions. Has anyone ever done this ? BC of course. Not that I am aware of. I would to do this if I could

You are missing the whole point. National polls are based on a well defined disribution of people to call, not on a random selection. Doing what is being done with the freight cars is really a random

All, One of the main problems with all of this data analysis is that you are trying to take a very small sample size (really insignificant) and extrapolate to the whole fleet. This also assumes that t

One can find ICC data in the annual Blue Books Do you know where one can locate these? Do you know when ICC started printing these? Thanks, Cyril Durrenberger

The very large Texaco refinery in Port Arthur was built in 1902. The equally large Gulf refinery next door in Port Arthur was built in 1901. These were two of the large refineries in the US for many y

I made the same point earlier. This pertains to my model Houston East & West Texas circa 1910 and the club layout of the Minnesota & Internatinal circa 1905-1915. Cyril Durrenberger Gene Green <biergl

Thanks for posting these. I had spent several hours looking at past messages and had blown it off as wasted effort to spend more time on this, especially since it is after the time of my major interes

I had the same problem Cyril Durrenberger Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...> wrote: average? He's probably closer than any of us ever will be. ====== I'll have more to say on this later, but fi

You all keep saying to look at the past messages for some of this data. I found a number of them, but I did not locate any that had the work that is being sited. Could some one provide the message num

The mix of freight cars to use on a model railroad is indeed a complex topic. I have a few comments. 1. The mix can be expected to vary significantly from year to year and from railroad to railroad, s

I stopped RMJ several years ago because: There was little on modeling the early era equipment which is of most interest to me. They had some of that in earlier issues, but it dried up. Almost all of t