can anyone identify what an oil car was? and why a separate classification? thanks mel perry On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:09 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote: Photo:

Garth Thank you. Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

That is called snow. Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN

I miss seeing the fall colors around Chicago during the RPM. Scott McDonald

Doug and friends, Don't forget that the WP also loaded beets. WP's steel 46' GS gondolas were used for beet traffic. According to Jim Eager's WESTERN PACIFIC COLOR GUIDE, beets were loaded at Gerlach,

Agreed. It's a MUST-DO in '21. Bill Jolitz

Tom here is where the photo comes from. https://www.chieftain.com/article/20090329/NEWS/303299970 The information may or may not be correct. I agree the dump is not like any I’ve seen. Reminds me of a

And also I DO see initials! <VBG> I'm trying to be cute, not argumentative BTW. Take Care, Brian R. Termunde Midvale, Utah Re: Identity Of This Car? (Undated) From: Benjamin Hom Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020

Hey Doug, I'm very interested in that beet dump photo you posted, want to know more, and, of course, would like a better rendition. I'm from Rocky Ford & have family connections with the factory there

Doug That’s am interesting photo. Paul Doggett

Here is a poor quality photo of an ATSF stockcar being loaded with sugar beets, at Rocky Ford Colorado. ACS is American Crystal Sugar. Everything I have sugar beets in California shows SP cars or cars

Bob Thank you more interesting information. Paul Doggett

I credit SP expert Jason Hill for answering the question. He stated, "There was a sugar beet loader at Arvin and several other jointly owned branches around the San Joaquin Valley. However, I believe

Tony, Thank you for the nice review David

It is my understanding that the insulation requirements were higher for an RB. RBs always had plug doors; either the sliding or swinging type. XI was kind of a catch-all classification for boxcars tha

the NYNH&H RBL had vents up high mounted vertically just under the roof w/a bent metal rod to open and close it. Very Visible on the F&C patterns Steve did for whomever originally issued the kit in th

I'm trying to determine the differences between insulated boxcars (AAR designation XI) and bunklerless refrigerator cars (RB or RBL), and don't see any real difference in design or use (although the O

I think they borrowed whatever they could, I have a UP with 2 bay hoppers in a beet train. Paul Doggett

I don’t know about SP beet trains, but I have seen photos of UP and even Chicago & Alton hoppers in Colorado & Southern beet trains.

I have seen this photo before, both in the CERA Bulletin and many years ago at TMER&L railfan slideshows. I probably should have paid more attention to the comments then. If I remember correctly, the