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Ancient Tank Car Parts (is parts, is parts, is parts etc.)
Richard Hendrickson
I took a quick look at the intermountain type 27 unterframe and the TichyBruce, my toes are not easily stepped on, since I have far more ideas for articles than I have time to build the models and write the articles. I don't have, nore am I aware of, drawings for the USG-A class cars, but I have several builder's photos I can scan for you. However, I'm leaving town for several days and won't time to do so until next week. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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Richard Hendrickson
Fellow Prisoners,Damn, Shawn, the glass is only half full. In the past five years we've only gotten 10K ICC-103Ws from RC, 8K and 10K Type 27s from L-L, and 8K and 10K Type 27s from IM. And more and different models are coming soon - trust me. Before that, we had, let's see, tank cars from Tichy and Athearn (no prototypes) and Walthers and Mantua (urp, gag). So what's with this sour note about "once every decade"? You remind me of my wife's favorite mantra: God grant me patience - and I want it RIGHT NOW! Seriously... ....what can we do withYes, yes, and yes. We've already talked about the Tichy/IM kitbash to produce models of the War Emeregency USG-A class cars; I know this works because I've already done one. And though I haven't tried it, I think Tichy's underframe combined with an 8K IM tank will make a pretty plausible model of the 8K cars built by SSC in sizeable numbers for NATX in the 1920s. The AC&F tanks modeled by IM are quite close in design and dimensions to the tanks of the same size built in the 1930s/'40s by GATC, so it should be possible to do some underframe mods and model the GATC cars of that era. Athearn's "chemical" tank can be shortened (getting rid of the grotesquely oversize valve casing) and made into a tank for an insulated 1CC-103/ICC-104, if a suitable insulated dome is fabricated for it. What part, or parts, would be needed toWe can do a whole lot with what we already have (except for lettering, and I'm working on that). All it takes is some time. So many models, so little time. Meanwhile, I've got several models to finish for magazine articles I'm already committed to. But if you want to have a go at any of the ideas outlined above, I can scan photos and suggest ways of going about it. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. <smithbf@...>
Garth wrote:
As Richard has pointed out a number of times, the Tichy tank with theRichard, Garth, I took a quick look at the intermountain type 27 unterframe and the Tichy tank. It looks very doable - perhaps even "quick". Can you point me in the directions of photographs, drawings, measurements to do this? In particular, I would like to see the "cradle" area supporting the tank. Richard - don't want to step on your toes if you're planning on writing this up...I'll be happy to see how it goes and send you what I cobble together for review/critique as an aid in developing your article Happy Rails Bruce Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. Scott-Ritchey Research Center 334-844-5587, 334-844-5850 (fax) http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin __ / \ __<+--+>________________\__/___ ____________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|____________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0
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Shawn Beckert
Garth wrote:
As Richard has pointed out a number of times, theHow did I miss out on that? I've got about a dozen of those Tichy kits in the closet, which I've been afraid to even look at since I found out there was no prototype for them. I know that they can be bashed into some kind of war-emergency cars, but I'm still waiting for Richard to finish the second half of THAT magazine article. Doggone it Richard, let ME come up there and chase the deer out of Sandra's rose garden; you sit down and write! Seriously, one bright note (for me anyway) is that you can take the 60" dome from the Tichy detail pack and graft it onto the IM Type-27 tank, thus reproducing Shell Chemicals' fleet of Type-27's, which all had this feature. That's an easy kitbash, at least. And since one of the "home points" for those cars was at Martinez, California on the Espee, all the more reason to do several! Shawn Beckert
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
Shawn:
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As Richard has pointed out a number of times, the Tichy tank with the small dome can be placed on the Type 27 underframe to give us a fair representation of some cars built during WWII. Richard has promised for several years to do the conversion and write it up, but has apparently been trapped by mundane non-railroad activities, like putting a roof over his head (only important if it protects his trains). I am sure there are many other possibilities. What is lacking is shared information. Richard noted recently that the magazines generally don't want articles unless there is a kit to go with them, but perhaps the Hawkins-Wider CYC would be a good venue for prototype photos and thoughts on kitbashing. A possibility, Richard? Others? Kind regards, Garth G. Groff "Beckert, Shawn" wrote:
...Since a new tank car kit seems to hit the shelves only
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Shawn Beckert
Fellow Prisoners,
Going through the ACF book this weekend - blissfully ignorant of the turmoil I caused with my questions of last week - I couldn't help but notice, once again, the sheer variety of tank car shapes and sizes. We've only scratched the surface with the handful of accurate kits that are on the market. Since a new tank car kit seems to hit the shelves only once every decade, or so it seems, what can we do with the various kits that now exist? Take, for example, the underframes from the P2K, Red Caboose, and Tichy kits. Can they be used as a starting point to make any other kind of tank car? Can the tanks themselves, or even the domes, be swapped around to create something new but prototypical? What part, or parts, would be needed to open up some kitbashing opportunities? I'm afraid if we don't come up with some way to stretch the capabilities of the kits we already have, we'll have to sit and wait for whatever the manufacturers come up with. Do we have any recourse on this? Your input, please. Shawn Beckert
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