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CRDX boxcars - former Pennsy?
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hicksco2@...
I am a volunteer with the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois
(www.irm.org), and I am currently researching the history of a trio of boxcars we have been using for storage. They are CRDX (Chicago Freight Car Leasing) #5402, 5419, and 5426. All three are steel boxcars, 44'5" over the coupler pulling faces, built in 1948 and with 110,000 lbs capacity. Our roster claims that they were built by CFC, but this is highly doubtful. The cars have ASF trucks, but - intriguingly enough - the trucks have "PRR" cast into them. Is it possible that these three cars are former Pennsy? If so, does anyone have any ideas as to what series these cars would have been in? Here are the links to these cars' pages on the IRM online roster: http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5402 http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5419 http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5426 Thanks for any help you can provide! |
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Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. <smithbf@...>
Yikes,
Thats not too much to go on...any chance of some photographs? The closest I come is the X43 class, built by Greenville, 12/50, with a coupled length of 44'4", 100,000lbs capacity. See http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=x43.gif&sel=box&sz=sm&fr= for details Happy Rails Bruce I am a volunteer with the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IllinoisBruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. Scott-Ritchey Research Center 334-844-5587, 334-844-5850 (fax) http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin __ / \ __<+--+>________________\__/___ ____________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|____________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0 |
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hicksco2@...
I realize that I should really have some photos on hand... I am going
to try and take some photos of these cars soon and post them online (somewhere). I'll be sure to let you know when I am able to do that. BTW, the reason I'm asking for this information is that the Illinois Railway Museum is working on making up display signs for the entire rail collection. These signs, which will be CONSISTENT (for a change), are 2'x3' aluminum signs with vinyl lettering. Although IRM has a collection of over 400 pieces of equipment, we're about half done already - after a year and a half of work. Most of the remaining cars are freight cars and, since I'm one of a few IRM members who are interested in researching this stuff for the new display signs, I may be coming up with other weird, obscure, and probably unrealistic requests for information in the future. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help with information about any freight cars at IRM! Thats not too much to go on...any chance of some photographs? Theclosest I come is the X43 class, built by Greenville, 12/50, with a coupledlength of 44'4", 100,000lbs capacity. Seediag=x43.gif&sel=box&sz=sm&fr= for details |
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Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
I've responded on the FC list, so I'll repeat myself here as I see the
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original questioneer is present. A measurement over the coupler length isn't very useful. If you can get the 3 interior measurements, rounded down, I'll search my 1950 ORER database and report back all the hits that match. It'll take only me a couple of minutes to do, so whenever you get the data, let me know. Dave Nelson -----Original Message----- |
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David Jobe <jobed@...>
Can't help you on the boxcars, but the trucks were certainly cast for the
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PRR. It was and still is not uncommon for a customer to specify slight variances in ASF's standard designs. Further, when casting a large order of trucks for a customer it's an easy matter to include their initials along with ASF's. By the way, you should also find letter enclosed by an octagon. The letter indicates the foundry where the sideframe or bolster was cast. A - Alliance, OH or G - Granite City, IL and prior to 1958 or 59, E - East St. Louis, IL. Hope that helps, DEJ -----Original Message-----
From: hicksco2@... [mailto:hicksco2@...] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:22 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] CRDX boxcars - former Pennsy? I am a volunteer with the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois (www.irm.org), and I am currently researching the history of a trio of boxcars we have been using for storage. They are CRDX (Chicago Freight Car Leasing) #5402, 5419, and 5426. All three are steel boxcars, 44'5" over the coupler pulling faces, built in 1948 and with 110,000 lbs capacity. Our roster claims that they were built by CFC, but this is highly doubtful. The cars have ASF trucks, but - intriguingly enough - the trucks have "PRR" cast into them. Is it possible that these three cars are former Pennsy? If so, does anyone have any ideas as to what series these cars would have been in? Here are the links to these cars' pages on the IRM online roster: http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5402 http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5419 http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi? freight=Chicago+Freight+Car+Company=5426 Thanks for any help you can provide! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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