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Reciprocal switching
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Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
What exactly is meant by this term? Does it mean that
railroads can switch each other's customers, or does it mean that one railroad will switch an industry on behalf of another railroad? (Difference analogous to "haulage rights" versus "trackage rights".) Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...> Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
Tim,
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I'm sure you'll receive better replys, but it allowed the shipper to pick his route. In other words, open his doors to every RR agent in town. Clark Tim O'Connor wrote: What exactly is meant by this term? Does it mean that |
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Greg Martin
Clark Propst cepropst@... writes:
Tim,Tim, This is the basic but it also was sometimes reserved to single receivers in a town. The agreement allowed more than one origin RR to access an industry or town with out being hit with additional switching charges from the delivering carrier. But, it also gave the shipper/receiver of an industry or town open access to other carriers without a charge as the car was loaded and shipped out of town. The town of Salem,OR is reciprocal to both carriers. We here in Salem,OR are served by the Oregon Trunk (now BNSF) but reciprocal to the SP (now UP) and we can ship and receive cars from either carrier without penalty. The charges($135.00) is resolved by both carriers. Open access vs. close to a carrier has been a battle for as long as RR's have been competeing for business. Chicago for instance has many reciprocal agreement with charges of $300.00 being absorbed, seems like a small amount of money but the numbers really haven't changed since the 50's. Greg Martin |
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Greg Martin
Did I say Oregon Trunck??? " by the Oregon Trunk (now BNSF" Oh my Lord this local crew would have me drawn and quartered... I should have said the Oregon Electric (now BNSF)...
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Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
I haven't had a chance to look at any of the list posted yet, but I see
one is (I'm assuming) the CGW 1957 Directory of Industries. When this list was first made available the the CGW group the same reciprocal switching question was asked, but the real disappointment was that only towns with more that one RR are listed. This is a real bummer if your modeling a town with only your RR. Clark |
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Lawrence Jackman <ljack70117@...>
Well then if the town only has one RR then there is no need for
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Reciprocal Switching. When ABCRR brings a car to Podunk Ks for Jones & Co, but Jones is located on XYZRR then the load has to be interchanged to XYZ for spotting. But there is a 300 dollar switching charge for doing it to be paid by Jones. The R/S does away with this charge. Lets say Jones is located in Tolittle Ks. Then the car is interchanged to the XYZRR and is taken to Tolittle and XYZ is the only RR there in Tolittle. There is no switching charge because XYZ gets a piece of the Road Haul. In the first example ABC would have gotten all of the Road Haul charges. XYZ the switching charges. The second case there is no switching charge as XYZ was part of the road haul and they get a percentage of that and R/S is not needed. So if XYZ brings a car to Podunk for Joe's Place and he is located on ABC', side of town the ABC reciprocates by setting setting the car for nothing. The receivers are happy and the RRs are also happy. R/S is only applied in the yard limits of the town both RR are located in. Thank you Larry Jackman Clark Propst wrote:
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Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
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-----Original Message----- Well then if the town only has one RR then there is no need forLarry, I think the complaint was the CGW did not publish the shipper names for those towns where it was the only railroad in town. What they did publish was a shippers directory for rail competative points. Some of those points had shippers in a reciprocal shipping agreement and others didn't. Dave Nelson |
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Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
Thank you Dave, you said it better than I could. It seems the CGW modelers prefer
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the area along the Mississippi River. Scenic yes, operational no. The line from McIntire IA to Rochester MN is a very modelable section of railroad, but the Directory of Industries doesn't include those towns. Too bad. Clark Dave & Libby Nelson wrote: -----Original Message----- |
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Greg Martin
Gize,
If there is only one RR in a town then the town is classified as a closed point. Good example is Las Vegas, NV... UP closed ... that is why the rate there is and has always been higher form any given origin than Los Angeles, CA or Chicago, IL... Greg Martin |
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Lawrence Jackman <ljack70117@...>
What do you mean by Reciprocal "SHIPPING"???? I have never heard of
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that. I think you mean reciprocal SWITCHING. which is done only at points where there is two or more RRs. It is not needed any where else. Thank you Larry Jackman
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Lawrence Jackman <ljack70117@...>
There can be no Reciprocal switching if there is only one RR in town. If
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there ever was please show me where it was done and why. Thank you Larry Jackman Dave & Libby Nelson wrote:
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Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...>
At 04:47 PM 6/25/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Dave and Larry,-----Original Message----- In the midwest there were very few towns with only one railroad, so almost all towns are listed. In the Milwaukee road reciprocal list all industries are listed in those dual served towns and then there is a column that states weather they are reciprocal switched. Ted Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet Elgin, Ill 60120 847-697-5353 or 847-697-5366 railsunl@... http://users.foxvalley.net/~railsunl/ Model railroad sales, DCC supplies, Books new and used O scale urethane cars, Photos and darkroom services Checks, cash or credit (secure server at web site-3% added) |
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