Can Companies [was 50' box cars, car assignments, and WWII]


Howard R. Garner <hrgarner@...>
 

Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 12:36:20 -0400
From: "Jack Wyatt" <cjwyatt@...>
Subject: Re: 50' box cars, car assignments, and WWII
Thanks Clark for that bit of information. I assume you are talking about
late steam era. That raises the question of where were the can manufacturers
located? I would guess they were spread over the food producing areas of the
country because it would be cheaper to transport tinplate than cans. Did the
West coast have a lot of can manufacturers with all of the agricultural
producing areas and Pacific fisheries?
Jack Wyatt
From a 1951 50th anniversary booklet from American Can Company.

56 can manufacturing facilities. From Tampa FL, to Vancouver, BC.
A few others were Waterloo, IA, St. Paul, MN, Seattle, WA, Portland OR, 9 in CA and 3 in HI. Anyone wanting further info, just ask.

Howard


Terry N Taylor <terryntaylor@...>
 

Hi Howard

Thanks for the info. Where were the 9 can companies in California?

Terry
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Thanks Clark for that bit of information. I assume you are talking about
late steam era. That raises the question of where were the can
manufacturers
located? I would guess they were spread over the food producing areas of
the
country because it would be cheaper to transport tinplate than cans. Did
the
West coast have a lot of can manufacturers with all of the agricultural
producing areas and Pacific fisheries?

Jack Wyatt
From a 1951 50th anniversary booklet from American Can Company.

56 can manufacturing facilities. From Tampa FL, to Vancouver, BC.
A few others were Waterloo, IA, St. Paul, MN, Seattle, WA, Portland OR,
9 in CA and 3 in HI. Anyone wanting further info, just ask.

Howard


Norman+Laraine Larkin <lono@...>
 

Hi Howard,
Were there any listings for New England or New Yorl?
Thanks
Norm Larkin

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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 12:36:20 -0400
From: "Jack Wyatt" <cjwyatt@...>
Subject: Re: 50' box cars, car assignments, and WWII


Thanks Clark for that bit of information. I assume you are talking about
late steam era. That raises the question of where were the can
manufacturers
located? I would guess they were spread over the food producing areas of
the
country because it would be cheaper to transport tinplate than cans. Did
the
West coast have a lot of can manufacturers with all of the agricultural
producing areas and Pacific fisheries?

Jack Wyatt
From a 1951 50th anniversary booklet from American Can Company.

56 can manufacturing facilities. From Tampa FL, to Vancouver, BC.
A few others were Waterloo, IA, St. Paul, MN, Seattle, WA, Portland OR,
9 in CA and 3 in HI. Anyone wanting further info, just ask.

Howard



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Don Valentine
 

Norm,

Don't forget the Continental Can Corp. plant on the east side of
Rt. #128 between Highland St. and the old New Haven Needham line that
served it. It was opened in the late 1950's and, I think, disappeared in
the 1970's. Not sure whether that would place it in Needhan or Newton but
suspect the latter.

Take care, Don Valentine





Quoting Norman+Laraine Larkin <lono@...>:

Hi Howard,
Were there any listings for New England or New Yorl?
Thanks
Norm Larkin


Len Allman <allmansipe@...>
 

Hello

There was a Continental Can factory in Paterson NJ on
the ERIE mainline. Does anyone know if the railroad
served in and, if so, what moved in and out?

Thanks,
Len Allman



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jaley <jaley@...>
 

Howard,

Did they have any in Kansas or Missouri?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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WWI



Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 12:36:20 -0400
From: "Jack Wyatt" <cjwyatt@...>
Subject: Re: 50' box cars, car assignments, and WWII


Thanks Clark for that bit of information. I assume you are talking
about
late steam era. That raises the question of where were the can
manufacturers
located? I would guess they were spread over the food producing areas
of the
country because it would be cheaper to transport tinplate than cans.
Did the
West coast have a lot of can manufacturers with all of the
agricultural
producing areas and Pacific fisheries?

Jack Wyatt
From a 1951 50th anniversary booklet from American Can Company.

56 can manufacturing facilities. From Tampa FL, to Vancouver, BC.
A few others were Waterloo, IA, St. Paul, MN, Seattle, WA, Portland OR,
9 in CA and 3 in HI. Anyone wanting further info, just ask.

Howard



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Don Strack <donstrack@...>
 

There was a large American Can Co. plant in Ogden, Utah. It was served
by three rialroads: UP, D&RGW and the Utah-Idaho Central interurban
line. The UIC spur was sold to Bamberger upon UIC's abandonment in
1947. Bamberger served the plant until it was abandoned in 1959. After
that, the plant was served almost exclusively by UP, until the plant
closed in 1970. The plant was located in Utah because of the numerous
canning factories in the northern part of the state. The large four-
floor brick building, with its distintive square smokestack is still
there, but is considered to be an eyesore by all except the
historically-minded residents. I don't know when it was built.

Don Strack


Don Strack <donstrack@...>
 

Howard Garner wrote:

From a 1951 50th anniversary booklet from American Can Company.

56 can manufacturing facilities. From Tampa FL, to Vancouver, BC.
A few others were Waterloo, IA, St. Paul, MN, Seattle, WA, Portland OR,
9 in CA and 3 in HI. Anyone wanting further info, just ask.
Does the book mention the Ogden, Utah, facility. May I arrange for a
photocopy of the book? I have been looking for a history of American Can,
and you appear to have exactly that.

Mark Hemphill turned me on to a book called, "Tin Cans and Tin Plate," by
James W. McKie (Harvard University Press, 1959) It has lots of information
about the can industry itself. To quote the first line in the book, "More
than a half century ago the organization of the American Can Company
transferred a highly competitive industry into a virtual monopoly." This was
just one of the numerous industry consolidations that were the basis of
Teddy Roosevelt's trust busters.

Don Strack


Don Valentine
 

Quoting Don Strack <donstrack@...>:

To quote the first line in the book, "More than a half century ago the
organization of the American Can Company transferred a highly competitive
industry into a virtual monopoly." This was just one of the numerous
industry consolidations that were the basis of Teddy Roosevelt's trust
busters.

And where is Teddy now that we really need him?? With a little trust busting
now we might have a few more smaller plants at a few more diversified locations
and, hence, a little more traffic on some of our favorite railroads. Come to
think of it, a little trust busting on the railroads isn't such a bad idea
either. Maybe we could resurrect some fallen flags!!

Take care, Don Valentine


Edward Dabler
 

In a message dated 4/8/03 3:58:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
whirt@... writes:

jaley wrote:

Howard,

Did they have any in Kansas or Missouri?
American Can was in North Kansas City, Missouri. Continental Can was in
St. Joseph (though that plant did not open until 1961 - my dad worked
there when it opened.)

Bill
I believe that Continental Can had a plant on S. Kingshighway in St. Louis
served by MoPac.

Ed Dabler


Bill Hirt <whirt@...>
 

jaley wrote:

Howard,
Did they have any in Kansas or Missouri?
American Can was in North Kansas City, Missouri. Continental Can was in St. Joseph (though that plant did not open until 1961 - my dad worked there when it opened.)

Bill