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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Ted Culotta wrote:
5709 is pictured here in the two-tone gray scheme, courtesy of PaulTed, brief comment about the Web site text: all the 50 BX cars were delivered with ASF A-3 trucks, and kept them for about 3 years. It appears that 35 or 40 of the cars got Allied trucks in late 1948 and early 1949, and kept them for about three years. (Most of them came from SP cabooses.) They were replaced by outside-equalizer General Steel Castings trucks, primarily due to SP aggravation with the maintenance problems of the Allied trucks. This was prior to the time the Allied trucks were banned in interchange. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Dean Hale said:
yes. a few. I have old, faded slide of one. Most were in pullman green withNooooot exactly. SP Dark Olive, which is NOT Pullman green, and Dulux Gold, not "gold"--though of course gold-colored will cover it. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Ben Hom said:
#92257 SP: SP Class B-50-24. 10 ft IH Postwar AAR boxcar withThree of the 50 cars were so painted, at least for a time. And though it's true that this was the Lark scheme, for this purpose it was the Pool scheme, as used on "backup" cars without train-name logos. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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BuyGone Treasures <buygone@...>
Ben and all:
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Three of the SP Express boxes were painted in the two tone gray scheme. Paul C. Koehler -----Original Message-----
From: benjaminfrank_hom [mailto:b.hom@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:18 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Athearn Express Boxcars Rich Ramik asked: "Is the car correct in terms of be an accurate model?" RPC Volume 6 is definitely a good one-stop source for information on Express Boxcars, including a comprehensive roster and lots of photos. The bad news is NONE of the Athearn cars are exact matches for their prototype: #92251/2 C&O: Prototype is a 6 ft door PS-1. RPC Vol 6 p 17. #92253 FEC: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Wine ventilators were added after the cars entered service. RPC Vol 6 p 22. #92255 SL-SF: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Branchline Yardmaster #8016 is a much better bet if you're looking for something quick, though you'll need to come up with Allied Full Cushion trucks. RPC Vol 6 p 29. #92257 SP: SP Class B-50-24. 10 ft IH Postwar AAR boxcar with Improved Dreadnaught Ends and ACR. Were any SP express boxcars painted in the Lark TTG scheme? RPC Vol 6 p 30. #92259 T&P: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. RPC Vol 6 p 37. #92261 WP: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 9 ft 6 in IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Branchline Yardmaster #8044 is closer. RPC Vol 6 p 35. YMMV regarding the usefulness of these cars. On the one hand, the paint and lettering on these models will be very nice, and Allied Full Cushion trucks for the cars that had them. (The two Branchline models are real nice too.) On the other hand, you still have the 50- year old tooling of the Globe/Athearn boxcar to deal with, claws, running board, and all. There's also the sticking point of paying premium price for a built-up car that Brianna Smith can assemble in five minutes. (I'm sure she'll be happy to assemble your Athearn blue box kits for $15 apiece. Bruce, don't get any ideas.) Ben Hom Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
On Mar 3, 2004, at 8:42 AM, Storey Lindsay wrote:
5709 is pictured here in the two-tone gray scheme, courtesy of Paul Koehler: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/sp-b-50-24main.html Regards, Ted Culotta |
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Rich's Email <rjramik@...>
Ben:
Thanks for the skinny on the Athearn Express Boxcars. Rich Ramik |
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Storey Lindsay
Ben,
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You asked -- Were any SP express boxcars painted in the Lark TTG scheme? Yes, three; numbers 5708, 5709, and 5748. Storey Lindsay Celje, Slovenia ----- Original Message -----
From: "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Athearn Express Boxcars Rich Ramik asked: |
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benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Rich Ramik asked:
"Is the car correct in terms of be an accurate model?" RPC Volume 6 is definitely a good one-stop source for information on Express Boxcars, including a comprehensive roster and lots of photos. The bad news is NONE of the Athearn cars are exact matches for their prototype: #92251/2 C&O: Prototype is a 6 ft door PS-1. RPC Vol 6 p 17. #92253 FEC: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Wine ventilators were added after the cars entered service. RPC Vol 6 p 22. #92255 SL-SF: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Branchline Yardmaster #8016 is a much better bet if you're looking for something quick, though you'll need to come up with Allied Full Cushion trucks. RPC Vol 6 p 29. #92257 SP: SP Class B-50-24. 10 ft IH Postwar AAR boxcar with Improved Dreadnaught Ends and ACR. Were any SP express boxcars painted in the Lark TTG scheme? RPC Vol 6 p 30. #92259 T&P: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 10 ft IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. RPC Vol 6 p 37. #92261 WP: Car is of 1937 AAR design, but prototype has 9 ft 6 in IH and 4/5 Dreadnaught ends. Branchline Yardmaster #8044 is closer. RPC Vol 6 p 35. YMMV regarding the usefulness of these cars. On the one hand, the paint and lettering on these models will be very nice, and Allied Full Cushion trucks for the cars that had them. (The two Branchline models are real nice too.) On the other hand, you still have the 50- year old tooling of the Globe/Athearn boxcar to deal with, claws, running board, and all. There's also the sticking point of paying premium price for a built-up car that Brianna Smith can assemble in five minutes. (I'm sure she'll be happy to assemble your Athearn blue box kits for $15 apiece. Bruce, don't get any ideas.) Ben Hom |
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KACHINainc@...
In a message dated 3/3/04 11:21:02 AM, b.hom@... writes:
<< SP Class B-50-24. 10 ft IH Postwar AAR boxcar with Improved Dreadnaught Ends and ACR. Were any SP express boxcars painted in the Lark TTG scheme? >> Bdn-- yes. a few. I have old, faded slide of one. Most were in pullman green with gold lettering. |
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