I believe Tamyia makes a liquid filler product which I had often
toyed with applying to a model too fill the seams. Anyone ever
thought of or tryed this?

Jerry in Fla

Hi Eric,

Looks can be deceiving-- this is not a car rebuilt with steel sides but an ACF builder's photo from 1926 or so. The official T&P folio sheet says it features 1 1/2 X 5 1/2" T&G yellow pine sheathing on the sides. Also note the way the dimensional data is arranged and the use of older style stencilling on the car to help date the photo. The car builders went to great lengths to have the horizontal sheathing appear this way but weather quickly made the wood swell in spite of their good intentions. Give the car a winter in Detroit and a summer in Abilene and the wood grain will be very visible.

However, when similar cars were rebuilt with steel sheathing in the fifites, they got the rounded style numerals (sort of like a skinny version of the UP numerals) which is another tip off to the age of the photo.. Now if there was only a way to fill in the half inch gaps between the boards on the MDC/Roundhouse cars we would be in business.



Jim Ogden



I'll take 'because it's a rebuilt as a steel sided car' for $1000 Mr Trebeck.


Eric

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"What, no wood grain? Where are the horizontal grooves so nicely replicated
by Evergreen?"

I'll take 'because it's a rebuilt as a steel sided car' for $1000 Mr Trebeck.


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OOPS! I meant zee-bracing, not door (another triumph of Cerebral Flatulence). For some reason, equipping the cars with single door had me fixated. Others retained wood siding (as shown in Steve Goen's color book on the T&P) while getting a single large door. I think it just depended to who was the shop forman at Marshall (Texas).

Jim Ogden

OOPS! I meant zee-bracing, not door (another triumph of Cerebral Flatulence). For some reason, equipping the cars with single door had me fixated. Others retained wood siding (as shown in Steve Goen's color book on the T&P) while getting a single large door. I think it just depended to who was the shop forman at Marshall (Texas).

Jim Ogden

OOPS! I meant zee-bracing, not door (another triumph of Cerebral Flatulence). For some reason, equipping the cars with single door had me fixated. Others retained wood (as shown in Steve Goen's color book on the T&P) while getting a single large door.

Jim Ogden

Quoting Dave Nelson <muskoka@...>:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/tp70317asw.jpg

What, no wood grain? Where are the horizontal grooves so nicely
replicated
by Evergreen?

Dave Nelson

Aw, c'mon. The boys in the car shop do a great job of making the car
weathertight and you're going to complain about it? At least we have a radial
roof car that one can see has a radial roof unlike the poorer photo of the
WAG car last week.

Don Valentine

Gene,

Actually I think Frank Hodina & Martin Lofton have taken a lot of
flack over the years for this, and last year at Naperville I was
surprised to hear Frank talk about scribing his own board seams.
So hopefully the days of Evergreen horizontally ribbed wood box
cars are behind us! Now if we could just get rib of the vertical
Evergreen V grooves, we'd be all set.

Are you sure the T&P box car is wood? SP bought some cars (A-50-10)
at that time that were single sheathed, but all steel.

Yes, as there is another builders photo of the same car where the other end
is close to the camera and one can make out that the car is indeed wood.
Naturally I didn't want to post the url for that one as it would spoil my
point! 8-)

Dave Nelson

What makes it even more confusing is that in the mid-fifties, the TP welded steel plate behind the door to replace the wood siding on many single-sheathed cars of this type (after converting them to single door cars). However, these had the rounded numerals in the reporting marks.

Jim Ogden

In the mid-60s I saw an NP single-sheathed box car that must have been
recently shopped. The paint was glossy and one had to look carefully to
tell the siding was wood boards. I hope this isn't too modern! <G>

Someone a long time ago must have decided that the best way to model or
create a characterization of the real car was to use "V" groove material. I
guess the hobby has to live with this inaccurate convention.
Many modelers don't seem to know that it is wrong. Ignorance is bliss.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/tp70317asw.jpg



What, no wood grain? Where are the horizontal grooves so nicely replicated
by Evergreen?



Dave Nelson