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PRR 123353-X28a narrow panel dimensions
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
After receiving much very helpful advice lately about how to put a cobble of one of these X28a cars together from Red Caboose X29 parts, I noticed the comment that this kitbash would not duplicate the narrow panel second from the left of the door.
I've reviewed all the photos of the X28a I could find on line, which is just about none. Thankfully the X28 photos are pretty clear. From these I understand that when built as X28s (a door and a half car) the panel immediately to the left of the half door was narrower than the rest. So I am guessing that when the cars were converted to single door X28a status the PRR simply added one normal width panel to replace the half door. Is that correct? Then from the modelling point of view, are the X29 side panels the same width as most of other X28(a) side panels? If so, are the X28 and the X28a cars longer than the X29? If so, are the other panels all the same width as the X29 panels, so that the extra car length is incorporated in that narrow panel? And finally (you knew this was coming) how wide is the narrow panel? Alternately, if the X28 and X28a normal panels were different from X29's, does someone have the comparison measurements of each car? Maybe someone has a Sunshine kit instruction sheet with scale drawings that would help with this kitbash? Rob Kirkham (hoping he only has to cobble together one odd side panel per car side, rather than 10) |
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Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Rob Kirkham asked:
"I've reviewed all the photos of the X28a I could find on line, which is just about none. Thankfully the X28 photos are pretty clear. From these I understand that when built as X28s (a door and a half car) the panel immediately to the left of the half door was narrower than the rest. So I am guessing that when the cars were converted to single door X28a status the PRR simply added one normal width panel to replace the half door. Is that correct?" No. The panel replacing the half door had to cover a 4 ft wide opening; the "normal" panel width is approximately 3 ft 6 in. "Then from the modelling point of view, are the X29 side panels the same width as most of other X28(a) side panels? If so, are the X28 and the X28a cars longer than the X29? If so, are the other panels all the same width as the X29 panels, so that the extra car length is incorporated in that narrow panel? And finally (you knew this was coming) how wide is the narrow panel?" 8 of ten of the X28/X28A side panels are the same width as the X29. The two "odd" panels are the one that replaced the door (the door itself was 4 ft 4 in) and the one immediately to the left of the door. No drawings for the X28/X28A exist in the model press; however, drawings of the similar CNJ auto boxcar appeared in the July 1986 issue of Mainline Modeler and should reveal the dimensions of the narrow panel. (I can't find my copy at the moment.) I'm working on an article to accompany future drawings of the Class X28/X28A cars in Mainline Modeler. There is no difference in length between the X28 and X28/X28A. Ben Hom |
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Thanks Ben. I assume that's just a typo in the last line - X29 and X 28 being the same length. I'll look for the MM article.
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Rob Kirkham ----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin Hom To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: RE: [STMFC] PRR 123353-X28a narrow panel dimensions Rob Kirkham asked: "I've reviewed all the photos of the X28a I could find on line, which is just about none. Thankfully the X28 photos are pretty clear. From these I understand that when built as X28s (a door and a half car) the panel immediately to the left of the half door was narrower than the rest. So I am guessing that when the cars were converted to single door X28a status the PRR simply added one normal width panel to replace the half door. Is that correct?" No. The panel replacing the half door had to cover a 4 ft wide opening; the "normal" panel width is approximately 3 ft 6 in. "Then from the modelling point of view, are the X29 side panels the same width as most of other X28(a) side panels? If so, are the X28 and the X28a cars longer than the X29? If so, are the other panels all the same width as the X29 panels, so that the extra car length is incorporated in that narrow panel? And finally (you knew this was coming) how wide is the narrow panel?" 8 of ten of the X28/X28A side panels are the same width as the X29. The two "odd" panels are the one that replaced the door (the door itself was 4 ft 4 in) and the one immediately to the left of the door. No drawings for the X28/X28A exist in the model press; however, drawings of the similar CNJ auto boxcar appeared in the July 1986 issue of Mainline Modeler and should reveal the dimensions of the narrow panel. (I can't find my copy at the moment.) I'm working on an article to accompany future drawings of the Class X28/X28A cars in Mainline Modeler. There is no difference in length between the X28 and X28/X28A. Ben Hom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Larry Kline
Ben Hom wrote:
8 of ten of the X28/X28A side panels are the same width as the X29. The two "odd" panels are the one that replaced the door (the door itself was 4 ft 4 in) and the one immediately to the left of the door. No drawings for the X28/X28A exist in the model press; however, drawings of the similar CNJ auto boxcar appeared in the July 1986 issue of Mainline Modeler and should reveal the dimensions of the narrow panel. (I can't find my copy at the moment.) I'm working on an article to accompany future drawings of the Class X28/X28A cars in Mainline Modeler. There is no difference in length between the X28 and X28/X28A. There is a photo of X28a 1223455 in the NMRA Charles collection that close to a straight on side view. I used the perspective command in Photoshop and printed the photo to 1/2 in scale. I measured the following approximate dimensions from the perspective corrected photo: - Wide panel next to door: 4 ft 4 in - Next, narrow panel: 2 ft 6 in Larry Kline Pittsburgh, PA |
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