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Library of Congress ORER Holdings
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artrich999@...
Richard;
The ORER began sometimes in the late 1800s. Westerfield has some editions going back at least to the turn of the last century on CDs. I have purchased copies of his CDs for 1900 and 1905 and they have been very helpful. --- Art Richardson Clinton, MS
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Richard Townsend
Last time I was at the Library of Congress I was looking for early ORERs. The catalog said they only went back to 1948. Was it know by some other name, or is the LOC holding incomplete?
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Schuyler Larrabee
It's incomplete. My earliest one, and I know it's not the first, is 1901.
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CBarkan@...
The LOC ORER collection is incomplete and 1948 sounds about right for their
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collection. A virtually complete collection was in the ICC library. Unfortunately, their entire collection (which includes other materials dating back to the 1830s) sits outside in a container somewhere near Denver. No telling what condition it will be in if and when the U of Denver ever decides to actually add it to their library which was the agreement by which they received the collection in the first place. I recall others in the past saying there were pretty good holdings of ORERs in the New York Public library (on-line catalogue I think) and a few other libraries and museums around the country. Since you are in Oregon, perhaps someone can chime in regarding left coast locations (Cal. Rwy Museum?). Chris
In a message dated 1/22/05 8:54:39 PM, richtownsend@... writes:
<< Last time I was at the Library of Congress I was looking for early ORERs. The catalog said they only went back to 1948. Was it know by some other name, or is the LOC holding incomplete? -- Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon>>
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Jeff English
--- In STMFC@..., CBarkan@a... wrote:
<snip> I recall others in the past saying there wereline catalogue I think)<snip> Last I knew the NYPL holdings were <not> catalogued on-line, other than a single reference to the fact that they have an ORER collection. The NYPL's ORER collection is all on microfilm, and of the select issues I have viewed, the reproduction leaves a lot to be desired. At least 1% of the data is lost. The first ORER was c.1885 (it had a somewhat different name then), but those early editions did not have any where near the amount of dimensional data found by the early 20th century. NYPL is missing a couple of dozen early issues, but their collection does have a large number of 19th century editions. It was published monthly in those days. Jeff English Troy, New York
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Richard Hendrickson
Chris BCarkan writes:
I recall others in the past saying there wereCSRM has extensive, though not complete, ORER holdings, including some issues before the turn of the 20th C. Stanford has a more complete collection, which will presumably become readily available on-line if Goggle's ambitious scheme to digitize the entire Stanford library materializes. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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Richard Townsend
While I am located on the west coast, I get to Washington, DC several times a year (coincidentally around the time of the Timonium swap meets) and almost never get anywhere near Sacramento or Palo Alto. I don't suppose UVA has any old ORERs?
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Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
Chris BCarkan writes:I recall others in the past saying there wereCSRM has extensive, though not complete, ORER holdings, including some --
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C J Wyatt
Another ORER collection (not complete, but they have some old ones)
is the Kalmbach Library of the NMRA: http://www.nmra.org/library/ORER.html I believe that for a fee they will make copies of pages that you are interested in and mail them to you. Jack Wyatt
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Ian Cranstone
On 23-Jan-05, at 8:51 AM, englishintroy wrote:
Last I knew the NYPL holdings were <not> catalogued on-line, otherThey've obviously updated things, as I was able to find reference to the ORERs (I think their web-based search engine is called CAT-NYP). They're held at their Science & Business branch in Manhattan. The NYPL's ORER collection is all on microfilm, and of the selectIssues up through 1960 are on microfilm -- more recent issues are still extant. I spent some time this past September looking through 1924-1957 issues on microfilm, and came back with a small ream of paper. There will have to be a return trip sometime to finish my work on CN entries from 1918 through 1923. I had hoped to look at some issues post 1960 as well, but just ran out of time. The microfilm that I saw seemed to be of good quality, but I couldn't say the same thing about the microfilm readers & printers. Some were highly temperamental, and not all worked. Worse, the library staff didn't seem all that knowledgeable about the equipment -- although in fairness I should note that the people at the circulation desk were quite helpful, and their advance reservation service allowed me to reserve a lot more material than they are apparently supposed to. Ian Cranstone Osgoode, Ontario, Canada lamontc@...
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Rupert and Maureen <gamlenz@...>
The Strahorn Library - part of IRM at Union - has quite an extensive
collection of ORER's as well as model magazines, railroad books, etc. I spent a very pleasant day there last year researching CB&Q material. Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ
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Garth Groff <ggg9y@...>
Richard,
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In a word, "No." UVA is not very good for train materials. About ten years back we had two ORERS, 1953 and 1957, which I was regularly checking out. Then they were discarded, inspite of their obvious circulation. I found about about two weeks too late to save them. UVA has a pretty good run of old C&O magazines, a near-complete collection of the COHS magazine, a collection of OFFICIAL GUIDES from the 1930s to the 1950s, a good selection of POOR'S and MOODY'S manuals, 1953 and 1957 CBCs, plus a smattering of miscellaneous books. Some issues of a railway mechanical journal are in deep storage. Boosk and journals are found in both Alderman Library and the Science Library. The rare books library has about 100 pieces of miscellanious correspondence from the Nelson & Albemarle Ry. Kind regards, Garth G. Groff Alderman Library Cataloging Dept. richtownsend@... wrote:
While I am located on the west coast, I get to Washington, DC several times a year (coincidentally around the time of the Timonium swap meets) and almost never get anywhere near Sacramento or Palo Alto. I don't suppose UVA has any old ORERs?
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