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ATSF & other car id help
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
I've loaded up another poor quality scan. Look for the name "id Santa Fe 1952" at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFPH/files/. The scan shows a train moving east (near Eisenhower junction) on the CPR mainline in November 1952. The two cars I would like to identify to the extent its possible are the ATSF car (second car back of the engine), and hopefully some guesses regarding the box car 5 back, just ahead of the Dominion/fowler car.
Regarding the ATSF car, I am assuming this is a post war car? I'd appreciate the car number series if that is possible with so little information. And if it can be had, modelling information. Thanks in advance Rob Kirkham |
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Scott Pitzer
For the one ahead of the Dominion car, I see: IC!
I see ILLINOIS CENTRAL on the left above the reporting marks and MAINLINE OF MID-AMERICA on the right side. |
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Richard Hendrickson
Rob Kirkham writes:
I've loaded up another poor quality scan. Look for the name "id Santa FeNo, the door is a prewar Youngstown corrugated door, and the side sill configuration identifies the car as Bx-34 class with Duryea cushion underframe. I'd appreciate the car number series if that is possible with so little139500-141300, built by Pullman-Standard in 1940. 1248 cars were delivered with ASF self-aligning spring-plankless trucks, the other 538 with National B-1s. There's no way to decipher a car number from the dots that compose the image Rob posted, but the car has obviously been recently repainted in the post-1947 lettering style with the "Ship and Travel..." slogan replacing the orginal system map on the right side. No way to tell which of the four "name train" slogans was on the opposite side. The bodies of the Bx-34s were 1941 AAR revised standard with 10'4" IH, so the cars can be modeled with an Intermountain box car kit by replacing the AAR underframe with a Duryea underframe. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520 |
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Thanks Richard.
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Thanks Scott
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George Hollwedel <georgeloop1338@...>
certainly looks like a Bx-57 class PS-1, looks lok a five digit road number starting wit a 3 and looks to be a 10' 6" tall car.
Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote: I've loaded up another poor quality scan. Look for the name "id Santa Fe 1952" at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFPH/files/. The scan shows a train moving east (near Eisenhower junction) on the CPR mainline in November 1952. The two cars I would like to identify to the extent its possible are the ATSF car (second car back of the engine), and hopefully some guesses regarding the box car 5 back, just ahead of the Dominion/fowler car. Regarding the ATSF car, I am assuming this is a post war car? I'd appreciate the car number series if that is possible with so little information. And if it can be had, modelling information. Thanks in advance Rob Kirkham Yahoo! Groups Links George Hollwedel Prototype N Scale Models georgeloop@... 310 Loma Verde Street Buda, TX 78610-9785 512-796-6883 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' |
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Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Rob Kirkham asked:
"The two cars I would like to identify to the extent its possible are the ATSF car (second car back of the engine), and hopefully some guesses regarding the box car 5 back, just ahead of the Dominion/fowler car. " Scott Pitzer responded: "For the one ahead of the Dominion car, I see...ILLINOIS CENTRAL on the left above the reporting marks and MAINLINE OF MID-AMERICA on the right side." It's extremely difficult to tell whether or not this car is a pre-war or post-war car as not enough of the end is visible and the door details are non-existent. The most likely possibilities are: - Pre-war car: IC Modified 1937 AAR boxcar, 10' 4" IH, both square corner and round corner variations. See table at http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/mod37aarpdfmain.html for specific information. To model this car, use the Intermountain Modified 1937 AAR boxcar kit, plus Sunshine mini-kit MK.10B for those cars with square corner ends. - Post-war car: Most likely IC 27000-27499, 10' 6" IH, 6 ft Youngstown doors, Universal hand brake, Morton running boards, ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks. Ben Hom |
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Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Thanks Ben
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From: Benjamin Hom To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: ATSF & other car id help Rob Kirkham asked: "The two cars I would like to identify to the extent its possible are the ATSF car (second car back of the engine), and hopefully some guesses regarding the box car 5 back, just ahead of the Dominion/fowler car. " Scott Pitzer responded: "For the one ahead of the Dominion car, I see...ILLINOIS CENTRAL on the left above the reporting marks and MAINLINE OF MID-AMERICA on the right side." It's extremely difficult to tell whether or not this car is a pre-war or post-war car as not enough of the end is visible and the door details are non-existent. The most likely possibilities are: - Pre-war car: IC Modified 1937 AAR boxcar, 10' 4" IH, both square corner and round corner variations. See table at http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/mod37aarpdfmain.html for specific information. To model this car, use the Intermountain Modified 1937 AAR boxcar kit, plus Sunshine mini-kit MK.10B for those cars with square corner ends. - Post-war car: Most likely IC 27000-27499, 10' 6" IH, 6 ft Youngstown doors, Universal hand brake, Morton running boards, ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks. Ben Hom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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