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History of corrugated box car ends?
Dean Payne <deanpayne@...>
A friend pointed to a photo and said "It can't be too early, it has
corrugated ends", after which I told him corrugated ends were much earlier than he thought. The USRA box cars had corrugated ends in the late teens and... I guess I don't have a clear impression beyond that! When were the more common types introduced? I know that only the very last X29's had corrugated ends, but I don't think that the USRA cars introduced them, nor that the X29's were the last hurrah for plate ends. I gotta admit, I find myself a bit puzzled about the advantage of corrugated over plate; I guess it's to add strength when a load shifts and clobbers the end due to braking or slack action. I think they tried corrugated sides on some gons, right? The sides still got all beat up... and I don't remember seeing a photo of a plate end car with dents indicating a need for the strength of a corrugated end... I don't remember any corrugated end photos with end damage, either. Dean Payne |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Dean Payne wrote:
I gotta admit, I find myself a bit puzzled about theIt's primarily stiffness, not strength, Dean; the strength depends on the thickness of the steel sheet, while the stiffness depends on the geometry of its arrangement. Think corrugated cardboard, which is really only heavy paper. Oh yes, corrugated steel ends sure did get bulged and dented from the inside. There are numerous photos out there. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Jeff English
Experimental pressed sheet steel corrugated ends were around before
1910. NYC's first experimental use was 1912 and their first production application of them was 1914. This might not be clear to non-engineers, but the idea is not necessarily to increase "strength" as to increase resiliency, or IOW, the ability of the end to absorb the energy of impact of the load shifting against its inside. By absorbing energy, the impact event is spread out over time (e.g., from 0.1 sec to 0.25 sec), resulting in a lower peak stress on the rivets that attach the ends to the sides, roof and end sill, increasing the threshold at which the end would tear away from its attachment. Also reducing the peak bending stress within the end sheet itself, thereby increasing the threshold at which the end would become permanently distorted. It's all about controlling a high-energy event to minimize peak stresses. Introducing the corrugations did increase "strength" by making the material stiffer in the horizontal direction, but it also gave the end the ability to stetch elastically in the vertical direction. That elastic stretching gives the ability to absorb the energy of the impact. I suppose the amount of damage to the lading would be slightly reduced as well, but that was not the primary objective. Hope this helps - Jeff English Troy, New York --- In STMFC@..., "Dean Payne" <deanpayne@n...> wrote: has corrugated ends", after which I told him corrugated ends were muchbeyond that! When were the more common types introduced? I know thatonly the very last X29's had corrugated ends, but I don't think thatthe USRA cars introduced them, nor that the X29's were the last hurrahthe advantage of corrugated over plate; I guess it's to add strengthwhen a load shifts and clobbers the end due to braking or slackaction. I think they tried corrugated sides on some gons, right? The sides |
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Richard Hendrickson
I will add to the useful analyses provided by resident engineers Tony
Thompson and Jeff English that X29-style plate steel ends had internal stiffeners in the form of vertical hat-shaped end posts (that's what those rows of vertical rivets on the outsides of the ends were about) to which internal wood linings were attached and which, up to a point, absorbed impacts from shifting cargo. Corrugated steel ends, as Jeff says, began to appear ca. 1910, first with the corrugations stamped inward and later with the corrugations facing outward (in the teens the Canadian Pacific built an experimental single sheathed box car in which both the end and side sheathing was corrugated steel). Prior to their development, wood ends were the most vulnerable part of a box car, and damage to car ends from rough train handling causing the cargo to shift was a chronic problem. Corrugated steel ends, though they didn't entirely eliminate the problem, greatly reduced it, and after corrugated ends were applied to all of the USRA box cars, relatively few box and auto cars were built without them. The Dreadnaught end, which first began to appear in the mid-1920s, was even stiffer and more energy-abosrbent than corrugated ends (though not entirely immune from damage), and was subsequently even further improved by W-section corner posts (1940) and the postwar Improved Dreadnaught design (1944). Other types of steel ends were developed (e.g. Vulcan vertical corrugated and Hutchins in the 1920s, Buckeye and Deco in the early 1930s) but were never widely adopted. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520 |
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rwitt_2000 <rmwitt@...>
Richard Hendrickson wrote:
Other types of steel ends were developed (e.g. Vulcan verticalcorrugated and Hutchins in the 1920s, Buckeye and Deco in the early 1930s) but were never widely adopted.< I was looking at patents for freight car ends at the US Patent Office web site some months ago and I noticed that there were literally hundreds of patents granted for metal/corrugated freight car ends from ~1910 to ~1930. Some, I recall, predated 1910. There were multiple patents for ends with "bulls-eye", "vertical corrugations", horizontal corrugations, etc. Obviously very few ever became commercial products. I never did find a patent for what Chris Barkan terms " the indestructible end". Bob Witt |
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CBarkan@...
To give credit where credit is due, I think I learned the term from Al
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Westerfield. The "Indy" end was not corrugated of course, it was a particular design of wood and steel framing and reinforcement. The whole matter of building more robust ends had little if anything to do with protecting lading. It was to reduce or eliminate the damage to the car from shifted lading. It is ironically amusing that the RR's response to the shifted load problems that generally inflicted severe damage on the customer's lading, was to simply make the car more resistant to the damage. Chris In a message dated 2/21/05 10:02:52 PM, rmwitt@... writes:
<< Obviously very few ever became commercial products. I never did find a patent for what Chris Barkan terms " the indestructible end" >> |
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buchwaldfam <duff@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson
<rhendrickson@o...> wrote: (in the teens the Canadian Pacific built an experimental single sheathed box car in which both the end and side sheathing wascorrugated steel).There was a shot of this car in one of the Mainline Modeler issues covering the Dominion Box Cars. But the car was only included as an interesting foot note, without any information given about it's service life. It would make an interesting addition to "the fleet", if it ran at the right time. The corregations look like corregated roofing material, so it probably could be modeled using Evergreen corregated sheet, or similar. Did this car actually go into general service, and until what year? Regards, Phil Buchwald |
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rwitt_2000 <rmwitt@...>
I didn't mean to confuse people by implying the "INDY" end was a
corrugated steel end. That's the end I was searching for at the patent site. Bob Witt CBarkan@a... wrote: To give credit where credit is due, I think I learned the term fromAl Westerfield. The "Indy" end was not corrugated of course, it was a particular design of wood and steel framing and reinforcement.< |
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