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PRR Stock Cars - Final Dates in Revenue Service
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Looking for an assist to help fill gaps in my ORER coverage to
determine final dates in revenue service for the following PRR stock
car classes for an upcoming article in The Keystone Modeler:
K7 (7/1950 - 15, none listed in 1/1955)
K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)
K8 (10/1963 - 2, none listed in 4/1968)
Thanks in advance!
Ben Hom
determine final dates in revenue service for the following PRR stock
car classes for an upcoming article in The Keystone Modeler:
K7 (7/1950 - 15, none listed in 1/1955)
K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)
K8 (10/1963 - 2, none listed in 4/1968)
Thanks in advance!
Ben Hom
Matt Herson <trains@...>
Ben,
Have the following information:
Matt Herson
Have the following information:
PRR 648314-648338, K7 (7/1950 - 15, none listed in 1/1955)1/1953 - 1 (648326)
PRR 134079-135499, K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)1/1966 - 3 (134647-135076)
PRR 128079-129078, K8 (10/1963 - 2, none listed in 4/1968)1/1966 - 1 (128918)
Matt Herson
Larry Grubb <larry450sl@...>
Ben,
April 1952 ORER: 648317-648326 3 cars
January 1953 ORER: 648326 1 car
Hope this helps,
Larry Grubb
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Forgot one thing that would make it easier - here are the number
series:
PRR 648314-648338, K7 (7/1950 - 15, none listed in 1/1955)
PRR 134079-135499, K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)
PRR 128079-129078, K8 (10/1963 - 2, none listed in 4/1968)
Ben Hom
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April 1952 ORER: 648317-648326 3 cars
January 1953 ORER: 648326 1 car
Hope this helps,
Larry Grubb
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Forgot one thing that would make it easier - here are the number
series:
PRR 648314-648338, K7 (7/1950 - 15, none listed in 1/1955)
PRR 134079-135499, K7A (10/1963 - 3, none listed in 4/1968)
PRR 128079-129078, K8 (10/1963 - 2, none listed in 4/1968)
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Ian Cranstone
Ben, I checked a few ORERs and came up with this:
PRR 648314-648338 (K7)
7/50: 15
4/52-7/52: 3 (as 648317-648326)
1/53: 1 (as 648326)
4/53: 0
PRR 134079-135499 (K7a)
10/63: 3
1/67-4/67: 3 (as 134647-135076)
7/67: 0
PRR 128079-129078 (K8)
10/63: 2
1/67-4/67: 1 (as 128918)
7/67: 0
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
PRR 648314-648338 (K7)
7/50: 15
4/52-7/52: 3 (as 648317-648326)
1/53: 1 (as 648326)
4/53: 0
PRR 134079-135499 (K7a)
10/63: 3
1/67-4/67: 3 (as 134647-135076)
7/67: 0
PRR 128079-129078 (K8)
10/63: 2
1/67-4/67: 1 (as 128918)
7/67: 0
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
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Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
Ben,
Here are a few more listings for the "K" series Stock Cars from the
ORER's that I have:
October 1944, Effective Date: July 31, 1944:
K7 - Series 648314 - 648338. 25 cars. Stock, Single Deck, Steel Frame.
AAR Mech. Designation
"SM", IL 40'6'. Note: QQ(8) Individual numbers of cars in series
..........648314 to 648338 which had end doors closed: 1648314
- 648319 inclusive; 648321 - 648325 inclusive; 648329 -
648331 inclusive; 648333, 648334, 648338.
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1420 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck,
Steel Underframe. AAR
Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'5". Note See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. Stock, Double Deck, Steel Frame. AAR Mech.
Designation "SF", IL 40'5".
Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 992 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck, Steel
Frame, Z Bar. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'6".
January 1950, Efective Date: October 31, 1949:
K7 - Series 648314 - 648338. 24 cars. Stock, Single Deck, Steel Frame.
AAR Mech. Designation
"SM", IL 40'6'. Note: PP(8) Individual numbers of cars in series
..........648314 to 648338 which had end doors closed:
1648314 - 648319 inclusive; 648321 - 648325 inclusive; 648329 -
648331 inclusive;
648333, 648334, 648338.
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1408 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck,
Steel Underframe. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'5". Note
See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. Stock, Double Deck, Steel Frame. AAR Mech.
Designation "SF", IL 40'5".
Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 987 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck, Steel
Frame, Z Bar. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'6".
April 1951, Effective Date: January 31, 1951:
K7 - Series 648315 - 648337. 12 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation. NOTE: PP(6): Individual numbers of cars
in series ..........648315* to 648337 which had end
doors closed: 1648314* - 648319 inclusive; 648321; 648325; 648330;
649331; 648334; 648338.
* Entry is as written in ORER Notes, Page 98. Maybe a typo!
K7A - Series 34079 - 1315499. 1272 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
Note: See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 985 Cars. Description referring to "Z Bar"
deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
January 1952, Effective Date: October 31, 1951:
K7 - Series 648317 - 648326*. 3 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
Note UU: Individual numbers of cars in series ..........648317 to
648337* which had end doors
closed: 1648317; 648321.
* Entry is as written in ORER Notes, Page 98. Maybe a typo!
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1020 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
Note: See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 926 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
January 1953, Effective Date: October 31, 1952:
K7 - 648326*. 1 Cars. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. No Notes.
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 813 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K7a - 1 Car Exception (134124) Deleted, No Entry.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 513 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
April 1953, Effective Date: January 31, 1953:
K7 - 0 Cars. No Entry for this class.
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 810 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 513 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
October 1953, Effective Date July 31, 1953:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 813* Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
* Note increase of 3 cars from April 1953 ORER entry. Either a
typo or a correction from
previous entry.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 515* Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation from previous entry..
* Note increase of 3 cars from April 1953 ORER entry. Either a
typo or a correction from
previous entry.
October 1954, Effective Date: July 31, 1954:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 806 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 514 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1959, Effective Date: October 31, 1958:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 806 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 514 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1961, Effective Date: October 31, 1960:
K7A - Series 134647 - 135076. 3 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
Class renumbered due to introduction of New Classes K9, K9a, K9b.
K8 - Series 128120 - 129078. 76 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1969, Effective Date: October 31, 1968:
Classes K7 or K8 vacated, none remain.
Ben, this covers all the registers that I presently have. Hope that
this is of some assistance.
Tom
Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...
Here are a few more listings for the "K" series Stock Cars from the
ORER's that I have:
October 1944, Effective Date: July 31, 1944:
K7 - Series 648314 - 648338. 25 cars. Stock, Single Deck, Steel Frame.
AAR Mech. Designation
"SM", IL 40'6'. Note: QQ(8) Individual numbers of cars in series
..........648314 to 648338 which had end doors closed: 1648314
- 648319 inclusive; 648321 - 648325 inclusive; 648329 -
648331 inclusive; 648333, 648334, 648338.
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1420 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck,
Steel Underframe. AAR
Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'5". Note See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. Stock, Double Deck, Steel Frame. AAR Mech.
Designation "SF", IL 40'5".
Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 992 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck, Steel
Frame, Z Bar. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'6".
January 1950, Efective Date: October 31, 1949:
K7 - Series 648314 - 648338. 24 cars. Stock, Single Deck, Steel Frame.
AAR Mech. Designation
"SM", IL 40'6'. Note: PP(8) Individual numbers of cars in series
..........648314 to 648338 which had end doors closed:
1648314 - 648319 inclusive; 648321 - 648325 inclusive; 648329 -
648331 inclusive;
648333, 648334, 648338.
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1408 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck,
Steel Underframe. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'5". Note
See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. Stock, Double Deck, Steel Frame. AAR Mech.
Designation "SF", IL 40'5".
Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 987 Cars. Stock, Convertible Deck, Steel
Frame, Z Bar. AAR Mech. Designation "SC", IL 40'6".
April 1951, Effective Date: January 31, 1951:
K7 - Series 648315 - 648337. 12 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation. NOTE: PP(6): Individual numbers of cars
in series ..........648315* to 648337 which had end
doors closed: 1648314* - 648319 inclusive; 648321; 648325; 648330;
649331; 648334; 648338.
* Entry is as written in ORER Notes, Page 98. Maybe a typo!
K7A - Series 34079 - 1315499. 1272 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
Note: See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 985 Cars. Description referring to "Z Bar"
deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
January 1952, Effective Date: October 31, 1951:
K7 - Series 648317 - 648326*. 3 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
Note UU: Individual numbers of cars in series ..........648317 to
648337* which had end doors
closed: 1648317; 648321.
* Entry is as written in ORER Notes, Page 98. Maybe a typo!
K7A - Series 134079 - 135499. 1020 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
Note: See Exception.
K7A - 134124. 1 Car. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. Note: Exception.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 926 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
January 1953, Effective Date: October 31, 1952:
K7 - 648326*. 1 Cars. No change in Description or AAR Mech.
Designation. No Notes.
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 813 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K7a - 1 Car Exception (134124) Deleted, No Entry.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 513 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
April 1953, Effective Date: January 31, 1953:
K7 - 0 Cars. No Entry for this class.
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 810 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128079 - 129078. 513 Cars. Description referring to "Z
Bar" deleted. No change in AAR Mech. Designation.
October 1953, Effective Date July 31, 1953:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 813* Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
* Note increase of 3 cars from April 1953 ORER entry. Either a
typo or a correction from
previous entry.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 515* Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation from previous entry..
* Note increase of 3 cars from April 1953 ORER entry. Either a
typo or a correction from
previous entry.
October 1954, Effective Date: July 31, 1954:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 806 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 514 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1959, Effective Date: October 31, 1958:
K7A - Series 134080 - 135499. 806 Cars. No change in Description or
AAR Mech. Designation.
K8 - Series 128078 - 129078. 514 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1961, Effective Date: October 31, 1960:
K7A - Series 134647 - 135076. 3 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
Class renumbered due to introduction of New Classes K9, K9a, K9b.
K8 - Series 128120 - 129078. 76 Cars. No change in Description or AAR
Mech. Designation.
January 1969, Effective Date: October 31, 1968:
Classes K7 or K8 vacated, none remain.
Ben, this covers all the registers that I presently have. Hope that
this is of some assistance.
Tom
Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...