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F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?
Scott Pitzer
In Classic Freight Cars Volume 6 by Maywald (I almost wrote "Henderson") there's C&EI 70-ton flat 42088 and the very similar looking SP 562781. Similar in having 16 stake pockets, with close spacing for the two nearest each end.
Is the C&EI car in the ballpark? I suppose it depends on what league you're playing in. (And I'm taking a chance on whether it was built by the end of our era.) Scott Pitzer
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Ed Hawkins
On Friday, April 29, 2005, at 06:24 AM, Scott Pitzer wrote:
In Classic Freight Cars Volume 6 by Maywald (I almost wroteScott, The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included on the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified Bill McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the C&EI car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen any evidence of a C&EI model from RC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Scott Seders
Ed Hawkins wrote
Scott,Ed: What other roads had cars of this type? Thanks, Scott Seders
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Ed Hawkins
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:11 AM, Scott Seders wrote:
Ed:Scott, Just SP/T&NO and C&EI as far as I know. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Ed Hawkins wrote:
Ed: If there is a stencil drawing for the C&EI cars at the MOT, I'll gladly make decals (soon, too). Regards, Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media 100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402 info@speedwitch.com www.speedwitch.com (650) 787-1912
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Ed Hawkins
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 03:54 PM, Ted Culotta wrote:
Ed:Ted, Unfortunately, no stencil drawing exists for this car in the MOT collection. The railroad likely furnished AC&F a drawing of how they wanted the car to be stenciled. I've got a decent broadside photo that I could scan and put on the STMFC web site. This photo is from a 35 mm copy neg, but should be adequate. I don't know about the ends. A lot of flat cars didn't have any end lettering anyway. I'll send the scan your way. Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Scott Pitzer
I guess Red Caboose doesn't strive for Six Paint Schemes like P2K does! (C&EI would have given them #3.)
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Scott Pitzer
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From: Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Apr 30, 2005 6:40 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI? On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 03:54 PM, Ted Culotta wrote: Ed:Ted, Unfortunately, no stencil drawing exists for this car in the MOT collection. The railroad likely furnished AC&F a drawing of how they wanted the car to be stenciled. I've got a decent broadside photo that I could scan and put on the STMFC web site. This photo is from a 35 mm copy neg, but should be adequate. I don't know about the ends. A lot of flat cars didn't have any end lettering anyway. I'll send the scan your way. Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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jerryglow2
Maybe they're trying to justify the relative high price of the car
because they claim it's a one road car. <g> Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitzer <scottp459@e...> wrote: I guess Red Caboose doesn't strive for Six Paint Schemes like P2Kdoes! (C&EI would have given them #3.) Scott Pitzer
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I guess Red Caboose doesn't strive for Six Paint Schemes like P2K does! (C&EI would have given them #3.)Well, there is pre- and post-1956 lettering for SP and T&NO (that's four) on Class F-70-6, and both SP and T&NO (transfers from Pacific Lines) for Class F-70-7. That's six right there. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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CASO <caso@...>
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From: "Scott Pitzer" <scottp459@earthlink.net> I guess Red Caboose doesn't strive for Six Paint Schemes like P2K does! (C&EI would have given them #3.) Scott Pitzer I received the dealer newsletter today from Red Caboose and they will be offering the flat car in C&EI in RTR form only. RR-32140 for the plastic deck. RR-32141 for the wood deck. 12 car numbers. Terry Link Bramalea, Ontario, Canada trlink@canadasouthern.com www.canadasouthern.com
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jerryglow2
I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I can use to do artwork? Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote: C&EI car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen any
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jerryglow2
Sorry - I meant to send that direct to Ed.
Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> wrote: kit. Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic Ican use to do artwork?on Billthe same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified anyMcClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of theC&EIcar along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
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Ed Hawkins
On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:
I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.Jerry, Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no. RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as being sold. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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armprem
Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a Viking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?
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Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
Armand: F-70-7 is a Flatcar.
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Brian J Carlson P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI? Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with aViking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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armprem
Brian,Shows you how much I know about the C&IE.Quess I'll check my ORER before I offer to help.Blush,Armand Premo
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jerryglow2
Thanks Ed. I couldn't even find the SP or any of the 53" flatcars until
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you gave me the kit numbers and did a search. Jerry Glow
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:
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jerryglow2
Thanks, Armand. I have one I think I purchased when they first came
out. I think they do still have them as I've been advising my friend a former narrow guager about steam era freight cars and Des Plains shop. He was able to stop there earlier this summer and saw them there. Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Armand Premo" <armprem@...> wrote: Viking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Guys;
I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure would. What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say they are still available? Why have I not seen them on their website? And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC? Thanks! Elden Gatwood ________________________________ From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jerryglow2 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:11 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI? Thanks, Armand. I have one I think I purchased when they first came out. I think they do still have them as I've been advising my friend a former narrow guager about steam era freight cars and Des Plains shop. He was able to stop there earlier this summer and saw them there. Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Armand Premo" <armprem@...> wrote: Viking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Elden Gatwood asked:
"I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure would. What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say they are still available? Why have I not seen them on their website?" Armand has unecessarily muddied the waters on this one. The Des Plaines kit has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject line. It's a model of C&EI 64000-64499, pre-war AAR boxcars with Viking roofs. The model is a Red Caboose (ex-IMWX) pre-war AAR boxcar with a new roof casting. More details on the prototype can be found on this table: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html "And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?" This is the car in the original message in this thread - it's a group of SP Class F-70-7 "look-alike" flats owned by the C&EI that Red Caboose is offering on their HO scale F-70-7 models. Their website has not been updated to include the F-70-7 in the HO scale kit listings. Ben Hom
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