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SOU 1937 AAR Box Model
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Ruth & Mike T <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
I have searched the message archive for quite a while but cannot find
the discussion of the accuracy of the Red Caboose 1937 AAR 10' box car. Can someone provide a pointer? TIA. Mike Turner Simpsonville, SC |
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Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
On May 24, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Ruth & Mike T wrote:
I have searched the message archive for quite a while but cannot findMike: If you go to www.steamfreightcars.com and click on Prototype, then I believe "Freight cars" or something similar, there is a .pdf roster of 1937 AAR box cars (I'd be more specific, but I am having issues with the rendering of pages on my browser at the moment). In the shameless plug department, I have included the data in the sheet that accompanies my decals for these cars. See at: www.speedwitch.com. Regards, Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media 100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402 info@... www.speedwitch.com (650) 787-1912 |
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benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Ted Culotta wrote:
"If you go to www.steamfreightcars.com and click on Prototype, then I believe "Freight cars" or something similar, there is a .pdf roster of 1937 AAR box cars (I'd be more specific, but I am having issues with the rendering of pages on my browser at the moment)." Here's the direct link: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html Ben Hom |
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yardcoolieyahoo@...
I have read the 1937aarpdfmain file but it addresses the prototype. I can't tell from the red-caboose pictures whether the model is sq or w. Is there a message thread discussing this model? Searching the yahoo archives is something I have yet to master in spite of lots of time invested. TIA.
Mike Turner Simpsonville, SC |
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Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
On May 25, 2005, at 6:12 AM, <yardcoolieyahoo@...> wrote:
I have read the 1937aarpdfmain file but it addresses the prototype. I can't tell from the red-caboose pictures whether the model is sq or w. Is there a message thread discussing this model? Searching the yahoo archives is something I have yet to master in spite of lots of time invested. TIA.RC offers both square and round corner versions. Regards, Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media 100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402 info@... www.speedwitch.com (650) 787-1912 |
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Shawn Beckert
Mike Turner wrote:
"I have read the 1937aarpdfmain file but it addresses the prototype. I can't tell from the red caboose pictures whether the model is sq or w. Is there a message thread discussing this model? Searching the yahoo archives is something I have yet to master in spite of lots of time invested." Mike, I think you're trying to determine if the Red Caboose 1937 AAR boxcar kit is accurate for the prototype. Yes it is. Just which prototype you're after involves doing some research. Ted's Steam Era Freightcars web site is a very good place to start looking for the information you need. Scanning the 1937 roster will tell you that most of Southern's fleet of 1937 cars were square-cornered; the only exception were the cars in the 14396-15895 number series. Red Caboose kit RC-8001 represents the square-cornered cars. Kit RC-8002 does the W-cornered cars. Decals: depending on your era, you'll want Champ's HN-12 Southern roadname set, along with the appropriate data set. If you're modeling an early car, you will need to order Ted's decal set which includes the aluminum herald. As always, it's best to use photographs to determine exact lettering placement and other details. Hope this helps, Shawn Beckert |
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Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam@...>
I would be careful with the Champ roadname set for any Southern car with
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the 12" lettering – the typeface is subtly but noticeably different to Southern’s usual version of Roman – the “N” in particular looks “off” as do some of the numbers. What Champ do have is the larger lettering and numbers (used in the mid to late fifties before the Block Gothic style cam in) I'm not aware of any other source; the typeface looks a bit off on these as well, but it's the only game in town unless you want to do it by hand. You may want to consider Al Westerfield’s decals for his 36’ SU cars instead of the Champ set - use the set for the later, re-sheathed SU cars as the earlier lettering was in a condensed typeface unlike anything used later. The herald on the original batches was real Aluminum paint; Ted Culotta has recently made decals for these available together with what looks to be thoroughly accurate lettering- see www.speedwitch.com. Aidrian -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Beckert, Shawn <snip> Decals: depending on your era, you'll want Champ's HN-12 Southern roadname set, along with the appropriate data set. If you're modeling an early car, you will need to order Ted's decal set which includes the aluminum herald. As always, it's best to use photographs to determine exact lettering placement and other details. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 |
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Scott Pitzer
I used the Champ set on a 50' PS-1 and it's always looked wrong. When I did a 1946 40' AAR I used a transfer set which looked better-- that would be CDS, I believe.
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From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <smokeandsteam@...> Sent: May 25, 2005 8:29 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: SOU 1937 AAR Box Model I would be careful with the Champ roadname set for any Southern car with the 12" lettering ? the typeface is subtly but noticeably different to Southern?s usual version of Roman ? the ?N? in particular looks ?off? as do some of the numbers. What Champ do have is the larger lettering and numbers (used in the mid to late fifties before the Block Gothic style cam in) I'm not aware of any other source; the typeface looks a bit off on these as well, but it's the only game in town unless you want to do it by hand. You may want to consider Al Westerfield?s decals for his 36? SU cars instead of the Champ set - use the set for the later, re-sheathed SU cars as the earlier lettering was in a condensed typeface unlike anything used later. The herald on the original batches was real Aluminum paint; Ted Culotta has recently made decals for these available together with what looks to be thoroughly accurate lettering- see www.speedwitch.com. Aidrian -----Original Message----- From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Beckert, Shawn <snip> Decals: depending on your era, you'll want Champ's HN-12 Southern roadname set, along with the appropriate data set. If you're modeling an early car, you will need to order Ted's decal set which includes the aluminum herald. As always, it's best to use photographs to determine exact lettering placement and other details. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links |
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mike turner <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
Thanks, Aidrian. After knowing if the model was reasonably accurate for SOU, this was exactly the sort of information I needed. Now, to find more pictures and buy a few RC kits. :) It sure is nice having the SRHA 40' box book, Tom's 1937 pdf, and this list.
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Mike Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton wrote: I would be careful with the Champ roadname set for any Southern car with |
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