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New Athearn freight cars

Tim O'Connor
 

N and HO scales
65'-6" mill gondolas. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Chicago, Burlington
& Quincy; Erie Lackawanna; Nickel Plate Road; Reading; and Southern
Ry. Ready-to-run N scale models ($14.98) feature Accumate magnetic
knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO models ($19.98) include
positionable ends, wire grab irons and metal wheels. November 2005.

Pullman-Standard 2,893-cubic-foot covered hoppers. Atchison, Topeka &
Santa Fe; Burlington Northern; Chesapeake & Ohio; Monon; Conrail;
Norfolk Southern; and undecorated. Ready-to-run N scale models
($15.98) have Accumate magnetic knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO
scale models ($20.98) feature wire grab irons and metal wheels.
October-November 2005.

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

N and HO scales
65'-6" mill gondolas. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Chicago, Burlington
& Quincy; Erie Lackawanna; Nickel Plate Road; Reading; and Southern
Ry. Ready-to-run N scale models ($14.98) feature Accumate magnetic
knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO models ($19.98) include
positionable ends, wire grab irons and metal wheels. November 2005.
Though Athearn's R&D department had good data on these cars, the choice of road names was made (in ignorance, as usual) by the sales department, so be warned that the NKP never had AAR-design 65' mill gons and the Reading prototype cars were an all-welded later adaptation of the AAR design. P/L is '50s or later on all of these models, and should be accurate for ATSF, CB&Q, E-L, and SOU. A number of other RRs had cars of this design (e.g. C&O, CG, CNW, ITC, L&N, NC&StL, RI, SAL, SL-SF, SP, WAB) and some of these will be offered by Athearn in future releases. There will be a forthcoming article in RMJ with lotsa photos.

Richard Hendrickson

Greg Martin
 

You can all thank Richard Hendrickson for his quiet stimulus and cooperation with Athearn in this project. I am surprised that there was never a leak.

Good Job Richard, I told you it could be done!

Greg Martin

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Subject: [STMFC] New Athearn freight cars



N and HO scales
65'-6" mill gondolas. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Chicago, Burlington
& Quincy; Erie Lackawanna; Nickel Plate Road; Reading; and Southern
Ry. Ready-to-run N scale models ($14.98) feature Accumate magnetic
knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO models ($19.98) include
positionable ends, wire grab irons and metal wheels. November 2005.

Pullman-Standard 2,893-cubic-foot covered hoppers. Atchison, Topeka &
Santa Fe; Burlington Northern; Chesapeake & Ohio; Monon; Conrail;
Norfolk Southern; and undecorated. Ready-to-run N scale models
($15.98) have Accumate magnetic knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO
scale models ($20.98) feature wire grab irons and metal wheels.
October-November 2005.






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kenedmier@...
 

In a message dated 7/6/2005 5:23:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rhendrickson@... writes:

Though Athearn's R&D department had good data on these cars, the choice
of road names was made (in ignorance, as usual) by the sales
department, so be warned that the NKP never had AAR-design 65' mill
gons and the Reading prototype cars were an all-welded later adaptation
of the AAR design. P/L is '50s or later on all of these models, and
should be accurate for ATSF, CB&Q, E-L, and SOU. A number of other RRs
had cars of this design (e.g. C&O, CG, CNW, ITC, L&N, NC&StL, RI, SAL,
SL-SF, SP, WAB) and some of these will be offered by Athearn in future
releases. There will be a forthcoming article in RMJ with lotsa
photos.
Richard:

Do you know what Santa Fe class(es) these would be?

Thanks,

Ken Edmier

Shawn Beckert
 

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 6, 2005, at 7:46 PM, kenedmier@... wrote:

Richard:

Do you know what Santa Fe class(es) these would be?
It's my understanding that Athearn will do a RTR '50s version of either the Ga-47 or Ga-48 class (built in 1937 and 1940). The models themselves will also be essentially accurate for the Ga-55 class if the trucks are changed to National B-1s and for the post-WW-II Ga-70 and Ga-76 classes (built in 1949 and 1951) if the trucks are changed to 70 ton ASF-A-3s.

Richard Hendrickson

Gatwood, Elden <Elden.Gatwood@...>
 

Thanks for pursuing this with them, Richard. It is about time we had a
decent 65' gon!

Elden Gatwood

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Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Athearn freight cars

On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

N and HO scales
65'-6" mill gondolas. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Chicago, Burlington
& Quincy; Erie Lackawanna; Nickel Plate Road; Reading; and Southern
Ry. Ready-to-run N scale models ($14.98) feature Accumate magnetic
knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO models ($19.98) include
positionable ends, wire grab irons and metal wheels. November 2005.
Though Athearn's R&D department had good data on these cars, the choice
of road names was made (in ignorance, as usual) by the sales
department, so be warned that the NKP never had AAR-design 65' mill
gons and the Reading prototype cars were an all-welded later adaptation
of the AAR design. P/L is '50s or later on all of these models, and
should be accurate for ATSF, CB&Q, E-L, and SOU. A number of other RRs
had cars of this design (e.g. C&O, CG, CNW, ITC, L&N, NC&StL, RI, SAL,
SL-SF, SP, WAB) and some of these will be offered by Athearn in future
releases. There will be a forthcoming article in RMJ with lotsa
photos.

Richard Hendrickson




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Garth Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Friends,

It's a bit hard to tell from Athearn's images. Do these two new cars have separate grab irons and other detail parts, or the usual trainset blobs of plastic?

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Tim O'Connor
 

It's a bit hard to tell from Athearn's images. Do these two new cars
have separate grab irons and other detail parts, or the usual trainset
blobs of plastic?
Garth, I expect the gondolas to have separate wire grabs, but the
covered hoppers to only have wire grabs on the end sills, while the
ladders and slope sheet grabs will be cast into the body. But it
is possible to make fine scale plastic ladder rungs, so this may
not be a problem. They don't say anything about the running board
however.

Tim O.

Eric
 

Is this the same prototype as the ECW 70t AAR Mill gondola?

Eric Petersson



"New Athearn freight cars


N and HO scales
65'-6" mill gondolas. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Chicago, Burlington
& Quincy; Erie Lackawanna; Nickel Plate Road; Reading; and Southern
Ry. Ready-to-run N scale models ($14.98) feature Accumate magnetic
knuckle couplers; Ready-to-Roll HO models ($19.98) include
positionable ends, wire grab irons and metal wheels. November 2005."


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kenedmier@...
 

In a message dated 7/7/2005 8:56:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wakeene@...
writes:

am assuming from my little bit of research (perhaps the term is
"guessing") that the PS2s are of the Ga-90 and Ga-94 classes. Do these
models fill any other classes?
Bill:

As Ed Hawkins stated, the Athearn has the offset hatches, it is good for the
GA-94 class (ATSF) only. The Walthers car with the late hat section above the
trucks would be good for the GA-116 class (ATSF) cars.

The GA-90 class had evenly spaced hatches.

Ken Edmier

Ken Edmier

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Richard,

I am assuming from my little bit of research (perhaps the term is
"guessing") that the PS2s are of the Ga-90 and Ga-94 classes. Do these
models fill any other classes?

Thanks,
-- Bill Keene

On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:

On Jul 6, 2005, at 7:46 PM, kenedmier@... wrote:

> Richard:
>
> Do you know what Santa Fe class(es) these would be?

It's my understanding that Athearn will do a RTR '50s version of
either
the Ga-47 or Ga-48 class (built in 1937 and 1940).  The models
themselves will also be essentially accurate for the Ga-55 class if
the
trucks are changed to National B-1s and for the post-WW-II Ga-70 and
Ga-76 classes (built in 1949 and 1951) if the trucks are changed to 70
ton ASF-A-3s.

Richard Hendrickson


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William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Ken,

Thanks for the info regarding ATSF GA-classes for the Athearn early
PS2s. The GA-94 still fits my modeling cut-off date (1956), but barely.
These will be brand new cars on the layout.

-- Bill Keene


On Jul 7, 2005, at 6:04 PM, kenedmier@... wrote:

In a message dated 7/7/2005 8:56:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wakeene@...
writes:

> am assuming from my little bit of research (perhaps the term is
> "guessing") that the PS2s are of the Ga-90 and Ga-94 classes. Do
these
> models fill any other classes?
>

Bill:

As Ed Hawkins stated, the Athearn has the offset hatches, it is good
for the
GA-94 class (ATSF) only.  The Walthers car with the late hat section
above the
trucks would be good for the GA-116 class (ATSF) cars.

The GA-90 class had evenly spaced hatches.

Ken Edmier

Ken Edmier


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charles slater
 

If the picture shown in in the add is the car they do, it is only good for the Ga-90 class, the Ga-94 cars have a different hatch spacing.
Charlie Slater
Bakersfield, Ca.

From: William Keene <wakeene@...>
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To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Athearn freight cars
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:54:50 -0700

Richard,

I am assuming from my little bit of research (perhaps the term is
"guessing") that the PS2s are of the Ga-90 and Ga-94 classes. Do these
models fill any other classes?

Thanks,
-- Bill Keene


On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:

On Jul 6, 2005, at 7:46 PM, kenedmier@... wrote:

> Richard:
>
> Do you know what Santa Fe class(es) these would be?

It's my understanding that Athearn will do a RTR '50s version of
either
the Ga-47 or Ga-48 class (built in 1937 and 1940).  The models
themselves will also be essentially accurate for the Ga-55 class if
the
trucks are changed to National B-1s and for the post-WW-II Ga-70 and
Ga-76 classes (built in 1949 and 1951) if the trucks are changed to 70
ton ASF-A-3s.

Richard Hendrickson


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charles slater
 

Ken, the Ga-94 hatches are spaced farther appart. The end hatches are over the bolster chanels so on the Santa Fe this car would be a Ga-90 class ONLY.
Charlie Slater
Bakersfield, Ca.

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Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Athearn freight cars
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:04:33 EDT

In a message dated 7/7/2005 8:56:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wakeene@...
writes:

am assuming from my little bit of research (perhaps the term is
"guessing") that the PS2s are of the Ga-90 and Ga-94 classes. Do these
models fill any other classes?
Bill:

As Ed Hawkins stated, the Athearn has the offset hatches, it is good for the
GA-94 class (ATSF) only. The Walthers car with the late hat section above the
trucks would be good for the GA-116 class (ATSF) cars.

The GA-90 class had evenly spaced hatches.

Ken Edmier

Ken Edmier



Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Eric Petersson wrote:

Is this the same prototype as the ECW 70t AAR Mill gondola?
Yes. But the underframe on the Athearn model will be correct, whereas the ECW model uses the incorrect floor and underframe from their Pennsy G26 model. Also, the detailing on the Athearn model will almost certainly be more refined.

Richard Hendrickson

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