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Aluminum Freight Cars....was....Ships vs freight cars
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george30045
Can you elaborate on the "quite troublesome" point? What I can't give you anything more specific than that the cars had corrosion problems that caused them to require more maintenance than steel cars of similar type. This is from being around the carshops in Mobile and talking about the cars with shop personnel. I did not work on the cars myself, so this is all I can tell you. Perhaps someone with much greater data on them can discover when they were removed from service. It could be that the cars were all moved to Illinois after 1958. Illinois is much friendlier to aluminum than the Gulf Coast. One of the Abe Lincoln/Ann Rutledge trainsets was made of aluminum and faired pretty well operating in Illinois. Demetre Argiro> |
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Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
One - #2500. See RP Cyc., Vol. 8, p.10. St. Cloud it is. Sorry for the plug.
Pat Wider --- In STMFC@..., "Thomas Baker" <bakert@a...> wrote: Didn't the Great Northern also have some aluminum box cars. Right now I cannot recallhow many, but it was not very many. Perhaps they were built in the St. Cloud shops.
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EHNBOM STAFFAN <staffan.ehnbom@...>
Didn't the Great Northern also have some aluminum box cars. Right now I cannot recall how many, but it was not very many. Perhaps they were built in the St. Cloud shops.Yes. Just one, the GN 2500, built at St. Cloud in 1944 and not scrapped until the early 1980's. Staffan Ehnbom
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benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Tom Baker asked:
"Didn't the Great Northern also have some aluminum box cars. Right now I cannot recall how many, but it was not very many. Perhaps they were built in the St. Cloud shops." GN 2500, one car built by the GN in 1944. Photo from the pay side of the RPI website, scanned from the 1946 CBC: http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Box-cars/1937-aar/GN- aluminum-37-xm-46-cyc.jpg Ben Hom |
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Thomas Baker
Didn't the Great Northern also have some aluminum box cars. Right now I cannot recall how many, but it was not very many. Perhaps they were built in the St. Cloud shops.
Tom ________________________________ From: STMFC@... on behalf of Anthony Thompson Sent: Tue 9/20/2005 1:12 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Aluminum Freight Cars....was....Ships vs freight cars Demetre (not signing his full name) wrote: In 1945, the Alton, M&St.L, and Rock Island, all received boxcarsCan you elaborate on the "quite troublesome" point? What trouble did GM&O have? These aluminum box cars lasted well in some other circumstances. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Demetre (not signing his full name) wrote:
In 1945, the Alton, M&St.L, and Rock Island, all received boxcarsCan you elaborate on the "quite troublesome" point? What trouble did GM&O have? These aluminum box cars lasted well in some other circumstances. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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george30045
"Have freight cars made of aluminum ever had these problems?" In 1945, the Alton, M&St.L, and Rock Island, all received boxcars built to the Modified 1937 AAR design, using the unique 3/3/4 Dreadnaught end. The cars were built by Mt. Vernon [a Pressed Steel subsidiary] using aluminum supplied by Reynolds. The RI and Alton used them in head end service. The cars were quite troublesome for the GM&O and did not endure for very long. ..........Demetre> |
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