Date
1 - 12 of 12
Tank Car Ladders
|
Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 3, 2005, at 12:04 PM, armand wrote:
Ladders,I have seen photos of tank cars with ladders on only oneArmand, whether there were ladders on both sides of tank cars depended, of course, on whether there were dome walkways or platforms on both sides, as there was no point in having a ladder that didn't go anywhere. Tank car builders provided one walkway and one ladder as standard (almost always on the left side). Right side walkways and ladders were optional; some buyers specified them, others not. By the 1930s, most tank cars had them on both sides, but the SP ordered 8K gal. oil cars from GATC as late as 1942 that had walkways and ladders on one side only. Of course, cars with full platforms and railings around the dome, as on many ICC-105 high pressure cars (and some other tank cars as well) had ladders on both sides. So the short answer is that, for ARA III and IV or ICC 103/104 tank casrs, there's no way to know for sure unless you have (a) a photo showing the side of the car that had no platform/ladder, or (b) photos of both sides of the car. If you have a photo of the right side and it has a platform and ladder, then it's highly likely (but not entirely certain) that there was a platform/ladder on the left side as well. Richard Hendrickson |
|
|
|
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Richard Hendrickson writes:
Armand, whether there were ladders on both sides of tank cars depended,Tell that to that lady in San Jose who built that crazy house with doors that opened to a solid wall, stairs to nowhere and hidden rooms. Of course...she did live in California. Tank car builders provided one walkway and one ladder as standard (almost always on the left side). Right side walkways andFor the benefit of some members perhaps not as enlightened as me <g>...how does one determine the right side from the left? Mike Brock |
|
|
|
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Mike Brock wrote:
For the benefit of some members perhaps not as enlightened as me <g>...howAs with any freight car, Mike, stand at the B end and look toward the car. The left side is on your left. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
|
|
For the benefit of some members perhaps not as enlightened as me <g>...howMike, When you stand and face the brake wheel (end of the car), the side to your left is the left side, and other side is the right side. If a car has a brake wheel on the side, on or both ends, then there are usually stencils designating the A-end and B-end. This is important in orienting a car for unloading, for example. (Rarely modeled -- a car that must be wyed or turned on a table, to orient it correctly.) Tim O'Connor |
|
|
|
ljack70117@...
You stand and face the B end of the car. The side to your right is the Right side and to your left is the left side. Also the journals number from the B end of the car R1 R2 R3 R4 and L1 L2 L3 L4 on a 4 axle car. If you have more axles you add more numbers
On Oct 3, 2005, at 8:35 PM, Mike Brock wrote: Thank you Larry Jackman ljack70117@... I wish the buck stopped here as I could use a few |
|
|
|
Richard Townsend
The obvious next question is which end is the B end. To identify the B end, you stand facing the left side of the car. The B end will be on your right.
-- Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon ljack70117@... wrote: You stand and face the B end of the car. The side to your right is � __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp |
|
|
|
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Richard Townsend wrote:
The obvious next question is which end is the B end. To identify the B end, you stand facing the left side of the car. The B end will be on your right.Well, an alternative is to guess A vs. B. You have a 50% chance of being correct, which is better than most things in life. <g> Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
|
|
|
Richard Hendrickson
For the benefit of some members perhaps not as enlightened as me <g>...howMike, I'm shocked...shocked, I tell you...that you don't know this very basic freight car fact. On cars of any type, the left and right sides are those on the left and right when looking at the B (brake wheel) end. Richard Hendrickson |
|
|
|
Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
What does one do when a freight car has a handbrake at both ends of the car? They both
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
can't be "B" ends. Hmmmmm? Also, can anyone explain to me why I joined this list? (-: Pat Wider --- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@o...> wrote:
For the benefit of some members perhaps not as enlightened as meMike, I'm shocked...shocked, I tell you...that you don't know this very |
|
|
|
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Pat Wider wrote:
What does one do when a freight car has a handbrake at both ends of the car? They bothThe convention, familiar with cabooses, defines the B end as the end which has the direct connection to the piston of the brake cylinder (as modelers say, the cylinder "points" to the B end). With a second brake wheel, of course, levers provide an INDIRECT connection to the cylinder too. Since not everyone knows the convention, or can readily see the brake cylinder, such cars often have the A and B ends indicated with stencils, as Tim O'C pointed out. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
|
|
|
Walter M. Clark
Richard,
Tony is pulling your leg (something he has been known to do, rarely). The B end is the end with the brake wheel (or lever, as the case may be). Of course if the car (like a caboose) has a brake wheel at each end, then the B end is the end towards which the rod from the brake cylinder points. Walter M. Clark Time stopped in November 1941 Riverside, California --- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@s...> wrote: Richard Townsend wrote:chanceThe obvious next question is which end is the B end. To identify theWell, an alternative is to guess A vs. B. You have a 50% of being correct, which is better than most things in life. <g> |
|
|
|
Richard Townsend
I've been a subscriber to this list for a while and I am well aware of Tony's tendencies.<G>. I was trying to pull everyone's leg a little by creating a circular logic problem (find the left side by facing the B end, find the B end by facing the left side, etc.).
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
But in response to Tony's 50% comment, I think it was Yogi Berra who said something to the effect of if you have a 50-50 chance of being right, 90% of the time you'll pick the wrong one.<g> "wmcclark1980" <walterclark@...> wrote: Richard, --
Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp |
|
|