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Jack Burgess <jack@...>
Tony Thompson wrote:
As with any freight car, Mike, stand at the B end and look toward the car. The left side is on your left. while..... Larry Jackman wrote: You stand and face the B end of the car. The side to your right is the Right side and to your left is the left side. You can see why people get confused....<g> Jack Burgess www.yosemitevalleyrr.com |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Jack Burgess wrote:
Tony Thompson wrote:Larry's and my statement sure look alike to me. But there is a potential problem with Larry's: you have to stand AT the B end, facing the B end. Otherwise I guess you could "stand and face the B end" from the side. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Jack Burgess says:
Tony Thompson wrote:And, of course, I knew all that...<g>. I'm just glad nobody said that as you face the B end of the car [ The brake wheel end ], that the side to your left is the port side and the side to your right is the starboard side. Mike Brock |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 3, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Mike Brock wrote:
And, of course, I knew all that...<g>. I'm just glad nobody said that as youThat's true, Mike, but only when the freight car is on a car ferry. Richard Hendrickson |
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Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Tony Thompson writes:
It is interesting that there are those that live in the real world and mathematicians who often live in unworldly worlds. Having attained a degree in mathematics about 45 yrs ago...and never really using any of it during my 33.5 [ note the 0.5 ] yrs with NASA...I can say that I have been in the real world most of the time since...although Mike Rose did comment recently that he often has no idea what I'm talking about. The point is, given Larry's real world statement...an unworldly mathematician might note that you could "face" the "B" end from quite a few different positions...infinite according to Zeno. Certainly, though, for our discussion, you could face the "B" end AND the "A" end at the same time from at least 2 different positions standing on the track...assuming that one position is to the right of the car when viewed from 90� to the car's side and in the same plane and the other is to the left of the car when viewed from the same location. See why Mike Rose said that?while.....Larry's and my statement sure look alike to me. But there is a Mike Brock...it must be late... |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Mike Brock wrote:Richard H. replied:And, of course, I knew all that...<g>. I'm just glad nobody said that That's true, Mike, but only when the freight car is on a car ferry.Or, of course, if it's a naval ammunition car. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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ljack70117@...
On Oct 4, 2005, at 12:05 AM, Mike Brock wrote:
Tony Thompson writes:I said it the way I did because I did not want you standing between the rails when you looked at the B end of the car. Must rememberIt is interesting that there are those that live in the real world andwhile.....Larry's and my statement sure look alike to me. But there safety when you are on the RR. thank you Larry Jackman ljack70117@... Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Larry Jackman said:
I said it the way I did because I did not want you standing betweenExcellent point, Larry <LOL>. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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ljack70117@...
On Oct 4, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Anthony Thompson wrote:
Larry Jackman said:Yes when you tell someone how to do something you must make sure what you say will not get them hurt. I worked in a hardware store in NJ. People would come in and ask how to change a light switch. What is the Very first thing you say to them? Turn off the breaker and then you take them to your electrical display and show them how to turn the breaker off. Because if you do not, you WILL get sued if they get hurt or killed. They lived in NYC in apartments with Superintend and have no idea how the electric gets to their switch. All they know is they pay Con Ed's bill every month and the light lights when the switch is moved.I said it the way I did because I did not want you standing betweenExcellent point, Larry <LOL>. So if I said to stand between the rails and look at the B end and they do and they get hit and hurt or killed, they Will sue me. Freight car content. The break cylinder always points to the B end of the car. If brake cylinders are on the truck then that is beyond 1960 and has no answer for this list. BIG GRIN Thank you Larry Jackman ljack70117@... You can't have everything. Where would you put it? |
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Bob Hainstock <boblh@...>
I am a conductor (CN) who regularly makes brake tests. And I must
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differ wtih you in regards to the brake cylinder always pointing toward the B end of a car. While they are not steam era, I regularly see NS cars with the cylinder pointed toward the A end. Levers transfer the motion to the wheels. The vast majority of car's cylinders do face the B end, but not all of them. Bob Hainstock ...The break cylinder always points to the B end of the car. If brake cylinders are on the truck then that is beyond 1960 and has no answer |
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ljack70117@...
On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Bob Hainstock wrote:
I am a conductor (CN) who regularly makes brake tests. And I mustWhen I was on the RRs they always pointed to the B end. I was taught that by the car toads. I watch them make B/O tags and write right or left side on it by just looking under the car to see which way it pointed, never bothering to look at the end of the car. Of course levers transfer the motion to the brake shoes. The Hand brake pulls the levers straight from the cylinder. When making air tests they did not care where A or B was as all they looked at was the cylinder or the shoes to see where they were set or not. Of course today any thing is done as a good many of the cylinders are on the trucks themselves. thank you Larry Jackman ljack70117@... Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Bob Hainstock wrote:
I am a conductor (CN) who regularly makes brake tests. And I mustTo my knowledge this was not true in the steam era. Unless you mean the OTHER railroad called NS <g>. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Walter M. Clark
Mike,
Port and starboard? I didn't know you used to work on the Love Boat. Walter M. Clark Time stopped in November 1941 (long before the Love Boat, btw) Riverside, California --- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@b...> wrote: Jack Burgess says:that as youTony Thompson wrote:And, of course, I knew all that...<g>. I'm just glad nobody said face the B end of the car [ The brake wheel end ], that the side toyour left is the port side and the side to your right is the starboard side. |
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buchwaldfam <duff@...>
That wouldn't work on box cars... at least not PS-1s. Both
sides left the factory with PS on them. Phil Buchwald --- In STMFC@..., "wmcclark1980" <walterclark@e...> wrote: Mike,Boat. to yourstarboard side.left is the port side and the side to your right is the
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