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Freight car types


SUVCWORR@...
 

You may not be find anything in Google because of what you are asking. The
correct name is AAR Mechanical designation. Try this link. They even have the
changes in meaning and the timeframe the mechanical designation was used.

http://www.nakina.net/aartype.html


Rich Orr


Brian Termunde
 

In a message dated 10/7/2005 9:09:31 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net writes:

This is good stuff


It is indeed Dave. Thanks for posting it!

Take Care!

Brian R. Termunde
West Jordan, Utah

"Ship and Travel the Grand Canyon Line!"
Grand Canyon Railway
Utah District


Schuyler Larrabee
 

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing somewhere on-line of the various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL


Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
 

There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone would scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing somewhere on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Oh, DUH! I know that, but forgot about it.

Thanks for the dope-slap.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Patrick Wider
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:26 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone
would scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing somewhere
on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL





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Michael Mang <mnmang@...>
 

Or go to:

http://www.nakina.net/aartype.html

for AAR mechanical designations.

Michael Mang

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Schuyler Larrabee
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:58 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types

Oh, DUH! I know that, but forgot about it.

Thanks for the dope-slap.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Patrick Wider
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:26 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone
would scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing somewhere
on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL





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Dave Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

This should be fairly accurate for the early 50's. The last one is a good
question that'll stump most everybody.

Dave Nelson
--------------
BH Stock, horse express
BLF Flat, containers, express
BR Reefer, express
BX Box, express
FB Flat, barrel rack
FC Flat, TOFC service
FD Flat, depressed center
FG Flat, gun carridge
FL Flat, logging
FM Flat, merchandise
FMS Flat, merchandise, w/ part rack
FW Flat, well
FWS Flat, well, w/ part racks
GA Gondola, cross bottom drop
GAS Gondola, cross bottom drop
GB Gondola, solid floor; Mill trade
GBC Gondola, solid floor; coke
GBS Gondola, solid floor; w/ par
GD Gondola, side door dump
GE Gondola, cross dump
GH Gondola, outside dump
GHS Gondola, outside dump, w/ part
GRA Gondola, outside dump
GS Gondola, center sill outside dump
GSC Gondola, coke
GSR Gondola, Covered
GT Gondola, coal dumping equipment
GTC Gondola, coal dumping equipment
HD Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HDR Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HE Hopper, not self clearing
HF Hopper, ballast dump in/out
HFA Hopper, divided
HFB Hopper, divided
HK Hopper, ballast dump
HM Hopper, self clearing
HMA Hopper, self clearing
HMC Hopper, self clearing, coke
HMR Hopper, self clearing, w/roof
HT Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors
HTC Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors,
HTR Hopper, w/roof
LC Box, muliple doors
LF Flat, containers
LG Gondola, containers
LO Covered hopper
LP Pulpwood
LRC Reefer, dry ice
LTA Tank, granular
MH
MW Misc MOW
MWB Ballast , drop
MWD Ballast, dump
MWE Ballast spreader
MWF Flat, ties or rail
MWT Tool
MWW Wrecking crane
NE Caboose
RA Reefer, brine tank
RAM Reefer, brine tank / meat
RB Reefer, beverage
RBH
RCD Reefer, dry Ice
RF Express Reefer
RP Reefer, mechanical
RS Reefer, standard
RSM Reefer, meat
SC Stock, convertable deck(s)
SD Stock, dump floor
SF Stock, fixed double deck
SH Stock, horse
SM Stock, single deck
SP Stock, poultry
TA Tank, acid
TAI Tank, acid, insulated
TGI Tank, glass, insulated
TL Tank, lined
TLI Tank, lined, insulated
TM Tank
TMI Tank, insulated
TMU Tank
TPI Tank, pressurized, insulated
TR Tank, rubber lined?
TRI Tank, rubber lined?, insulated
TW Tank, wooden
VA Ventilator
VM Ventilator, insulated
VS Ventilator, insulated
XA Box, autos
XAL Box, ??
XAP Box, auto parts; No merchandise
XAR Box, autos; No merchandise
XF Box, furnature
XI Box, Insulated
XM Box, merchandise
XME Box, damage restraints
XMI Box, ??
XML Box, loader; usually auto part
XMP Box, dedicated service
XMR Box, autos & merchandise
XT Box, tank
YM Polling Car


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Michael.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Mang
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:05 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types

Or go to:

http://www.nakina.net/aartype.html

for AAR mechanical designations.

Michael Mang

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Schuyler Larrabee
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:58 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types

Oh, DUH! I know that, but forgot about it.

Thanks for the dope-slap.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Patrick Wider
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:26 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If
someone would
scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing
somewhere on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL





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bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

I have a number of ORERs between 1923 and 1960 (actually as late as
1994 but I can't say that here) and would be happy to scan and send
the list of freight and/or passenger car M.C.B. mechanical
designations.

It should be pointed out that the definitions of some designations
changed over time and sometimes the designation changed but the
definition remained the same.

RM in 1936 was a reefer with meat rails. In 1952 the same reefer was
an RSM. GMA and GK gondolas used to be separate mechanical
designations but are now lumped together with GB gondolas.

Requests should specifiy a year or range of years.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Wider" <pwider@s...> wrote:


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone would
scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing
somewhere on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL


Schuyler Larrabee
 

That's correct. Manifold variations on "Freight car types" didn't do the trick. Thanks.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of SUVCWORR@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:18 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types

You may not be find anything in Google because of what you
are asking. The correct name is AAR Mechanical designation.
Try this link. They even have the changes in meaning and the
timeframe the mechanical designation was used.

http://www.nakina.net/aartype.html


Rich Orr






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bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

In light of the information available at
http://www.nakina.net/aartype.html
my offer is withdrawn.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "bierglaeser" <bierglaeser@y...> wrote:

I have a number of ORERs between 1923 and 1960 (actually as late as
1994 but I can't say that here) and would be happy to scan and send
the list of freight and/or passenger car M.C.B. mechanical
designations.

It should be pointed out that the definitions of some designations
changed over time and sometimes the designation changed but the
definition remained the same.

RM in 1936 was a reefer with meat rails. In 1952 the same reefer
was
an RSM. GMA and GK gondolas used to be separate mechanical
designations but are now lumped together with GB gondolas.

Requests should specifiy a year or range of years.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Wider" <pwider@s...> wrote:


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone
would
scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing
somewhere on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL


bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

Polling or poling?

If you know what a poling car is, then you know what them there poling
pockets are for.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Nelson" <muskoka@c...> wrote:

This should be fairly accurate for the early 50's. The last one is a
good
question that'll stump most everybody.

Dave Nelson
--------------
<snip>
YM Polling Car


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Gene, I'd suggest posting a ~1950 listing to the files area would be a public service . . .

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of bierglaeser
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:27 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight car types

I have a number of ORERs between 1923 and 1960 (actually as late as
1994 but I can't say that here) and would be happy to scan
and send the list of freight and/or passenger car M.C.B.
mechanical designations.

It should be pointed out that the definitions of some
designations changed over time and sometimes the designation
changed but the definition remained the same.

RM in 1936 was a reefer with meat rails. In 1952 the same
reefer was an RSM. GMA and GK gondolas used to be separate
mechanical designations but are now lumped together with GB gondolas.

Requests should specifiy a year or range of years.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Wider" <pwider@s...> wrote:


There's a nice list towards the back of any ORER. If someone would
scan it.......

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:

I did some hunting with Google, but isn't there a listing
somewhere on-line of the
various car type
designations, and their meanings?

Like
XM
RB
RBL
HW

Etc., etc.

I'd like to put some guys on another list out of their misery.

TIA.

SGL





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Schuyler Larrabee
 

This is good stuff, Dave.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:06 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Freight car types

This should be fairly accurate for the early 50's. The last
one is a good question that'll stump most everybody.

Dave Nelson
--------------
BH Stock, horse express
BLF Flat, containers, express
BR Reefer, express
BX Box, express
FB Flat, barrel rack
FC Flat, TOFC service
FD Flat, depressed center
FG Flat, gun carridge
FL Flat, logging
FM Flat, merchandise
FMS Flat, merchandise, w/ part rack
FW Flat, well
FWS Flat, well, w/ part racks
GA Gondola, cross bottom drop
GAS Gondola, cross bottom drop
GB Gondola, solid floor; Mill trade
GBC Gondola, solid floor; coke
GBS Gondola, solid floor; w/ par
GD Gondola, side door dump
GE Gondola, cross dump
GH Gondola, outside dump
GHS Gondola, outside dump, w/ part
GRA Gondola, outside dump
GS Gondola, center sill outside dump
GSC Gondola, coke
GSR Gondola, Covered
GT Gondola, coal dumping equipment
GTC Gondola, coal dumping equipment
HD Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HDR Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HE Hopper, not self clearing
HF Hopper, ballast dump in/out
HFA Hopper, divided
HFB Hopper, divided
HK Hopper, ballast dump
HM Hopper, self clearing
HMA Hopper, self clearing
HMC Hopper, self clearing, coke
HMR Hopper, self clearing, w/roof
HT Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors
HTC Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors,
HTR Hopper, w/roof
LC Box, muliple doors
LF Flat, containers
LG Gondola, containers
LO Covered hopper
LP Pulpwood
LRC Reefer, dry ice
LTA Tank, granular
MH
MW Misc MOW
MWB Ballast , drop
MWD Ballast, dump
MWE Ballast spreader
MWF Flat, ties or rail
MWT Tool
MWW Wrecking crane
NE Caboose
RA Reefer, brine tank
RAM Reefer, brine tank / meat
RB Reefer, beverage
RBH
RCD Reefer, dry Ice
RF Express Reefer
RP Reefer, mechanical
RS Reefer, standard
RSM Reefer, meat
SC Stock, convertable deck(s)
SD Stock, dump floor
SF Stock, fixed double deck
SH Stock, horse
SM Stock, single deck
SP Stock, poultry
TA Tank, acid
TAI Tank, acid, insulated
TGI Tank, glass, insulated
TL Tank, lined
TLI Tank, lined, insulated
TM Tank
TMI Tank, insulated
TMU Tank
TPI Tank, pressurized, insulated
TR Tank, rubber lined?
TRI Tank, rubber lined?, insulated
TW Tank, wooden
VA Ventilator
VM Ventilator, insulated
VS Ventilator, insulated
XA Box, autos
XAL Box, ??
XAP Box, auto parts; No merchandise
XAR Box, autos; No merchandise
XF Box, furnature
XI Box, Insulated
XM Box, merchandise
XME Box, damage restraints
XMI Box, ??
XML Box, loader; usually auto part
XMP Box, dedicated service
XMR Box, autos & merchandise
XT Box, tank
YM Polling Car




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Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

why would the last one be a stumper the pennsy had a few poling cars. I do
not think they were in use in the 50's though.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Nelson" <muskoka@comcast.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Freight car types


This should be fairly accurate for the early 50's. The last one is a good
question that'll stump most everybody.

Dave Nelson
--------------
BH Stock, horse express
BLF Flat, containers, express
BR Reefer, express
BX Box, express
FB Flat, barrel rack
FC Flat, TOFC service
FD Flat, depressed center
FG Flat, gun carridge
FL Flat, logging
FM Flat, merchandise
FMS Flat, merchandise, w/ part rack
FW Flat, well
FWS Flat, well, w/ part racks
GA Gondola, cross bottom drop
GAS Gondola, cross bottom drop
GB Gondola, solid floor; Mill trade
GBC Gondola, solid floor; coke
GBS Gondola, solid floor; w/ par
GD Gondola, side door dump
GE Gondola, cross dump
GH Gondola, outside dump
GHS Gondola, outside dump, w/ part
GRA Gondola, outside dump
GS Gondola, center sill outside dump
GSC Gondola, coke
GSR Gondola, Covered
GT Gondola, coal dumping equipment
GTC Gondola, coal dumping equipment
HD Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HDR Hopper, ballast dump - outside
HE Hopper, not self clearing
HF Hopper, ballast dump in/out
HFA Hopper, divided
HFB Hopper, divided
HK Hopper, ballast dump
HM Hopper, self clearing
HMA Hopper, self clearing
HMC Hopper, self clearing, coke
HMR Hopper, self clearing, w/roof
HT Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors
HTC Hopper, cross dump; 3+ doors,
HTR Hopper, w/roof
LC Box, muliple doors
LF Flat, containers
LG Gondola, containers
LO Covered hopper
LP Pulpwood
LRC Reefer, dry ice
LTA Tank, granular
MH
MW Misc MOW
MWB Ballast , drop
MWD Ballast, dump
MWE Ballast spreader
MWF Flat, ties or rail
MWT Tool
MWW Wrecking crane
NE Caboose
RA Reefer, brine tank
RAM Reefer, brine tank / meat
RB Reefer, beverage
RBH
RCD Reefer, dry Ice
RF Express Reefer
RP Reefer, mechanical
RS Reefer, standard
RSM Reefer, meat
SC Stock, convertable deck(s)
SD Stock, dump floor
SF Stock, fixed double deck
SH Stock, horse
SM Stock, single deck
SP Stock, poultry
TA Tank, acid
TAI Tank, acid, insulated
TGI Tank, glass, insulated
TL Tank, lined
TLI Tank, lined, insulated
TM Tank
TMI Tank, insulated
TMU Tank
TPI Tank, pressurized, insulated
TR Tank, rubber lined?
TRI Tank, rubber lined?, insulated
TW Tank, wooden
VA Ventilator
VM Ventilator, insulated
VS Ventilator, insulated
XA Box, autos
XAL Box, ??
XAP Box, auto parts; No merchandise
XAR Box, autos; No merchandise
XF Box, furnature
XI Box, Insulated
XM Box, merchandise
XME Box, damage restraints
XMI Box, ??
XML Box, loader; usually auto part
XMP Box, dedicated service
XMR Box, autos & merchandise
XT Box, tank
YM Polling Car






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Dave Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

Brian J Carlson wrote:
why would the last one be a stumper the pennsy had a few poling cars.
I do not think they were in use in the 50's though.
Brian J Carlson
P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
So had I asked "For what car does the AAR Mechanical Designation YM
signify?" you'd have answered right away w/o looking at an ORER?

Dave Nelson


Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
 

Ahem, the correct term is: "Push Pole Pocket".

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "bierglaeser" <bierglaeser@y...> wrote:

Polling or poling?

If you know what a poling car is, then you know what them there poling
pockets are for.

Gene Green


Walter M. Clark
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Nelson" <muskoka@c...> wrote:

Brian J Carlson wrote:
why would the last one be a stumper the pennsy had a few poling cars.
I do not think they were in use in the 50's though.
Brian J Carlson
P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
So had I asked "For what car does the AAR Mechanical Designation YM
signify?" you'd have answered right away w/o looking at an ORER?

Dave Nelson
Dave,

The way my memory plays tricks on me sometimes I might not get "what
car does the AAR Mechanical Designation XM signify?" more than 75% of
the time. That pesky memory is why I have two 5" ring binders almost
filled with printed copies of many of the messages from this list (and
a big THANK YOU to all on this list).

Walter M. Clark
Time stopped in November 1941
Riverside, California