There is a color photo of a long, shingle-sheathed box car at NP 30995 Box Car Item number: 6572658337.

The truss pattern suggests this car may be the result of splicing two cars. I think I see a Dreadnaught square corner end. When might this car have been built? Were there more? When was it retired?

Reply directly to bierglaeser at yahoo dot com if you care to.

Thanks in advance.

Gene Green

I think one of these cars showed up in hide service to the Endicott-Johnson
tannery at Endicott NY.

I had a negative of the car. Have heard that prints from my neg collection
are avaialbe through Bob's Phots but I cannot verify that.

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO

On Oct 24, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Gene Green wrote:

There is a color photo of a long, shingle-sheathed box car at NP 30995
Box Car Item number: 6572658337.

The truss pattern suggests this car may be the result of splicing two
cars. I think I see a Dreadnaught square corner end. When might this
car have been built? Were there more? When was it retired?

Ten cars numbered 30990-30999. They were rebuilt in 1965 by extending
the length of some 20000 20499 series boxcars, originally built in the
NP shops in 1931-'32, from 40'6" IL to 50'3" IL – hence the off-center
doors. IIRC, this was done to provide a small number of cars for
on-line LCL service. Neither the concept nor the cars lasted very
long. The cars did not go off line in interchange and were retired in
the '70s.

Richard Hendrickson

Richard, the color photograph in question was taken in 1971, in
White River Junction, Vermont!

I took that to mean, WHILE IN LCL SERVICE they didn't go off line-- after that, they were just box cars-- long weird looking box cars. (That picture reminds me of some book illustrations based on "impressions" in the artist's mind!)
Scott Pitzer
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On Oct 24, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Gene Green wrote:

There is a color photo of a long, shingle-sheathed box car at NP

30995

Box Car Item number: 6572658337.

The truss pattern suggests this car may be the result of splicing

two

cars. I think I see a Dreadnaught square corner end. When might

this

car have been built? Were there more? When was it retired?

Ten cars numbered 30990-30999. They were rebuilt in 1965 by

extending

the length of some 20000 20499 series boxcars, originally built in

the

NP shops in 1931-'32, from 40'6" IL to 50'3" IL – hence the off-

center

doors. IIRC, this was done to provide a small number of cars for
on-line LCL service. Neither the concept nor the cars lasted very
long. The cars did not go off line in interchange and were retired

in

the '70s.

Richard Hendrickson

Darn! I was hoping such car would be a candidate for my model RR set
in 1950. It was the truss pattern that interested me. Well, that
and the length.

Gene Green
Out in the west Texas town of El Paso

On Oct 24, 2005, at 7:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Richard, the color photograph in question was taken in 1971, in
White River Junction, Vermont!

My response was unclear, and Scott Pitzer is correct; what I meant to say was that they didn't go off line while in LCL service. Obviously, they did so after their removal from that service.

Richard Hendrickson