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Possible renumbering of IC 170001-175000 boxcars
Mark Heiden
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for some information regarding possible renumbering of
some Illnois Central bocxars, series 170001-175000. These are 40ft
single sheathed boxcars with fishbelly underframes and composite ends.
They were built 1914-1915. There is a photo on the pay side of the
NEB&W website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Box-cars/40-foot-single-
sheathed/T-M-7-panel-Howe/XM-ss-TM-type-IC-1919-cyc.jpg
The NEB&W site lists these cars as off the roster by 1949. Is it
possible that these cars were still on the roster at that time, but
under a different number series?
Thanks,
Mark Heiden
I'm looking for some information regarding possible renumbering of
some Illnois Central bocxars, series 170001-175000. These are 40ft
single sheathed boxcars with fishbelly underframes and composite ends.
They were built 1914-1915. There is a photo on the pay side of the
NEB&W website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Box-cars/40-foot-single-
sheathed/T-M-7-panel-Howe/XM-ss-TM-type-IC-1919-cyc.jpg
The NEB&W site lists these cars as off the roster by 1949. Is it
possible that these cars were still on the roster at that time, but
under a different number series?
Thanks,
Mark Heiden
Ray Breyer <rbreyer@...>
Renumbering is very possible, Mark. The IC seemingly renumbered everything
around WWII, including some of their boxcar classes. While I don't have
anything but three photos of the 171000-series boxes, I do have the class
diagram for the 176000-176999 series cars, which were renumbered to the
16000-16975 series. I've got at least seven other IC box diagrams that
indicate those series also underwent renumberings during the 1930s and
1940s.
The 1950 IC ORER lists literally thousands of composite boxcars. I don't
have diagram sheets for any of them (IC pre-diesel diagrams are sort of hard
to find), but chances are good that some of these are renumbered cars.
Ray Breyer
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around WWII, including some of their boxcar classes. While I don't have
anything but three photos of the 171000-series boxes, I do have the class
diagram for the 176000-176999 series cars, which were renumbered to the
16000-16975 series. I've got at least seven other IC box diagrams that
indicate those series also underwent renumberings during the 1930s and
1940s.
The 1950 IC ORER lists literally thousands of composite boxcars. I don't
have diagram sheets for any of them (IC pre-diesel diagrams are sort of hard
to find), but chances are good that some of these are renumbered cars.
Ray Breyer
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Subject: [STMFC] Possible renumbering of IC 170001-175000 boxcars
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for some information regarding possible renumbering of
some Illnois Central bocxars, series 170001-175000. These are 40ft
single sheathed boxcars with fishbelly underframes and composite ends.
They were built 1914-1915. There is a photo on the pay side of the
NEB&W website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Box-cars/40-foot-single-
sheathed/T-M-7-panel-Howe/XM-ss-TM-type-IC-1919-cyc.jpg
The NEB&W site lists these cars as off the roster by 1949. Is it
possible that these cars were still on the roster at that time, but
under a different number series?
Thanks,
Mark Heiden
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Mark
Heiden
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:00 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Possible renumbering of IC 170001-175000 boxcars
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for some information regarding possible renumbering of
some Illnois Central bocxars, series 170001-175000. These are 40ft
single sheathed boxcars with fishbelly underframes and composite ends.
They were built 1914-1915. There is a photo on the pay side of the
NEB&W website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Box-cars/40-foot-single-
sheathed/T-M-7-panel-Howe/XM-ss-TM-type-IC-1919-cyc.jpg
The NEB&W site lists these cars as off the roster by 1949. Is it
possible that these cars were still on the roster at that time, but
under a different number series?
Thanks,
Mark Heiden
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Mark Heiden wrote:
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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I'm looking for some information regarding possible renumbering ofAs Ed Workman said some years ago, anyone who has (a) gained an understanding of the renumbering of Illinois Central freight cars, and (b) completed the program of medication resulting from same, should contact him at once.
some Illnois Central bocxars, series 170001-175000. These are 40ft
single sheathed boxcars with fishbelly underframes and composite ends.
They were built 1914-1915. . .
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history