Greetings,

In a collection of photos taken at the recent Naperville prototype modelers
meeting is this photo of Steffan Ehnbom's fine model...

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/51606809

The roof on this model surprised me, as I've read that GN boxcars in the
15000-15549 series had roofs with rectangular panels and these roofs were
painted (or covered with car cement) black. Are these published sources
incorrect and if so, what would be the correct roof reference/name?

As background, these cars were originally Erie-Lackawanna 78500 to 78999 and
79000 to 79199.

Thanks,

Larry Rice
Port Townsend WA

Larry;

Can you confirm that these were ex-EL cars? If so, what is the
provenance? As described by you below, they do not appear in my Erie
Lackawanna freight equipment diagram book, nor do they appear in my
Lackawanna diagram book. I don't have an Erie diagram book, perhaps
Schuyler Larrabee could check. I'm curious, as if it is an ex-EL
car, I would sure like to see it as such (even if it would be, as
such, past the time-frame of the STMFC).

Thanks;

Jim Harr



--- In STMFC@..., Lorraine Kirsch & Larry Rice
<lrice@o...> wrote:

Greetings,

In a collection of photos taken at the recent Naperville prototype

modelers

meeting is this photo of Steffan Ehnbom's fine model...

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/51606809

The roof on this model surprised me, as I've read that GN boxcars

in the

15000-15549 series had roofs with rectangular panels and these

roofs were

painted (or covered with car cement) black. Are these published

sources

incorrect and if so, what would be the correct roof reference/name?

As background, these cars were originally Erie-Lackawanna 78500 to

78999 and

79000 to 79199.

Thanks,

Larry Rice
Port Townsend WA

Jim,

Erie diagram book at...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-book.html

The cars were built in 1940 with single doors, leased by GN in 1963 as
rebuilt double door cars via A. A. Morrison.

Specific Erie diagrams...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-9-13.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-9-14.gif

Builders photos...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78500adb.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie79000adb.jpg

Larry Rice
Port Townsend WA

Larry;

Thanks so much! I suspected that they may have been single-door cars
originally, but did not get as deep into the research that you
obviously did. I am in your debt, and will say thanks again. Much
appreciated.

Jim Harr



--- In STMFC@..., Lorraine Kirsch & Larry Rice
<lrice@o...> wrote:

Jim,

Erie diagram book at...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-book.html

The cars were built in 1940 with single doors, leased by GN in

1963 as

rebuilt double door cars via A. A. Morrison.

Specific Erie diagrams...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-9-13.gif
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-frt-9-14.gif

Builders photos...

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78500adb.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie79000adb.jpg

Larry Rice
Port Townsend WA

Larry

A partial Jim Sands photo of GN #15400 confirms the Viking roof as well
as the original National Type B trucks found on ERIE 78500-78999.

--- In STMFC@..., "bnpmodeler" <bnchmark@e...> wrote:
Larry; Can you confirm that these were ex-EL cars? If so, what is the
provenance?

If those Erie numbers are correct those box cars came with Viking
roofs as original equipment.

Ed Mines