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NP flat kit
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joe binish <joebinish@...>
Fellow freight car nuts,
I receeived my NP 52' flat kit in the mail from Northern Specific models today. Really nice, enough that I am putting off working on other stuff that would earn fame and fortune to put it together! I hope to get it done for an op session this weekend, albeit empty(the lumber load will have to wait!)I have no connection with Northern Specific Models, just a happy customer! Joe Binish
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Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
Website?
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-- Brian Ehni
From: joe binish <joebinish@earthlink.net>
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Tom Palmer
Brian,
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Try this- http://www.northernspecificmodels.com/ - the stock car is nice. Best regards, Tom Palmer Stafford, (no city taxes) Texas 77477 Modeling the Katy in 1952 in Texas of course.
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joe binish <joebinish@...>
sorry!
www.northernspecificmodels.com joe binish
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Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
Can't say I ever saw the prototype, but this looks like a nice kit. I think
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I may have to buy a couple of them. -- Brian Ehni
From: Tom Palmer <remlapmot@earthlink.net>
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On Wed, March 22, 2006 6:56 pm, joe binish wrote:
Fellow freight car nuts,have to wait!)I have no connection with Northern Specific Models, just a happyMine was on the doorstep today too, and I echo the sentiment. The model has a neat design that will allow weight to be hidden in a false floor, as well as between the center sills. It looks like a very detailed set of castings that will go together pretty quickly and make a nicely detailed 52', 50 ton flat. I plan to model one of the pre WWII 60250-60499 or 63000-63379 series cars and was wondering what the proper trucks for this car would be. Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
Bruce Smith wrote:
Ted Culotta's decal set for the car says Tichy spring plankless double truss or Proto 2000 AAR self-aligning spring plankless. Ted doesn't differentiate between the two prewar or one postwar lots for the trucks, but does mention the difference in decks between lots. I haven't seen Aaron's flat car instructions but I'm sure he must have mentioned the deck differences. Tom Madden
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On Wed, March 22, 2006 9:43 pm, pullmanboss wrote:
Ted Culotta's decal set for the car says Tichy spring plankless doubleTom, Thanks! I have the decals, but didn't think to look there. Yes, Aaron does mention the non-overlapping decks on the earlier versions. I would note to the group (adding cellulose to the fire of the earlier deck discussion <VBG>) that the kit includes a laser cut wooden deck. Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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Richard Hendrickson
On Mar 22, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
I plan to model one of the pre WWII 60250-60499 or 63000-63379 series carsAAR self-aligning spring-plankless in the photos I have, so Ted C. is (as usual) correct in recommending either the Tichy or P2K trucks. Personally, I'd prefer the Tichy trucks as they are a bit more delicate in appearance and have smaller journal boxes; the boxes on the P2K trucks are more like those on 70 ton rather than 50 ton trucks. Richard Hendrickson
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A pair of 1938 photos (NPHS V.19 #1) of two NP flat cars shows two
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different trucks -- one with spring planks, and one without. After looking at several model trucks, the only real choice for a truck with spring planks is the Accurail, while the Proto2000 plankless truck is a pretty good match for the other. Unfortunately the journal box lids on the two models would look better if they could be swapped to fit the combination of lids and planks found on the prototype. I think the Tichy truck journals appear too small for these cars. Tim O'Connor
Bruce Smith wrote:Ted Culotta's decal set for the car says Tichy spring plankless double
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The 1938 photos do show overlapping decks (I assume you mean wood
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that overlaps the side sills?) but the overlap is small, maybe an inch or a little more. Tim O'Connor
Tom,
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On Wed, March 22, 2006 11:40 pm, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Yes, I saw that. It looks like the early cars had this very small overlap, which is what I was calling "no overlap". Interstingly, the directions have you glue the deck on very early in the build process, making it hard not to paint the deck while painting the model. I will likely add the deck later, pre-stained, once the model is painted. Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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joe binish <joebinish@...>
Bruce,
You could add the deck later in the instructions, since nothing is done to it after you attach it to the "underframe". Looking closely at the photos in Aaron's and Ted's instrucions, it looks to me like the ends of the deck boards were painted while the side of the car was painted. A little masking tape should cover the deck while I spray it. (do I loose FCN points if I didn't add all of the brake piping? There is no documentation for the train line!) Off to the spray booth. Joe Binish
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Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:45 AM, joe binish wrote:
Bruce,Even though my model is weathered and "finished" the deck is still loose and unattached. Regards, Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media 645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437 info@speedwitch.com www.speedwitch.com (650) 787-1912
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SD9E@...
Can some one provide contact information to enable getting in touch with
Northern Specific? Thanks, Jeff Pape
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leakinmywaders
Anybody have a a brake wheel recommendation for Northern Specific's
resin NP flat car? The kit instructions are silent on this subject. Looks like Aaron maybe used the straight-spoked wheel from the Tichy kit, but it is flat in cross section, and the prototype wheels, as best as I can tell, appear to have had spokes descending 2 or 3 inches concentrically toward the hub. Also, has anyone checked the deck height on a completed model against prototype dimensions? I'm wondering if they ride a little high on the bolsters--if so that could possibly be cured with some simple modifications. The ORER-listed height to top of sides or platform for the relevant NP car series is 3ft 11in from rail. Thanks for getting the decals online, Ted. Best, Chris Frissell Polson, MT
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The W&R brass cars have an elaborate brake wheel, with a fairly
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flat profile. I will look at some references tonight and try to figure out what it is supposed to represent. Appliances like brake wheels might change from order to order, or even car to car, so it's best to get the information from an equipment diagram... Tim O.
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From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com> Anybody have a a brake wheel recommendation for Northern Specific's
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pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
Jeff Pape asked:
From Aaron's web site (www.northernspecificmodels.com): Npin53 (at) northernspecificmodels (dot) com Tom Madden
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leakinmywaders
Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
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information on brake appliances--e.g., http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Flat%20Cars/52%20Ft.%20Flat%20Cars%2064000-195.jpg So we pretty much are stuck with photo sources (although there could be relevant data stashed in the NPRHA archives in MN, should anyone have time to dig for it). Chris Frissell Polson, MT
-- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:
.... Appliances like brake wheels might change from order to order, or even car to car, so it's best to get the
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Chris
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I'll bet there is another drawing out there... somewhere.. This is just a "general plan" drawing. There may be a "bill of materials" or other auxiliary drawings for every freight car. (He said, hopefully.) Tim
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From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com> Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
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