The DS/SS split - More Unknowns


Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 2/9/2007 8:32:39 PM Central Standard Time,
ostresh@uwyo.edu writes:

WP, XM, Box, 19001-19050, 40'4", 6'1", 100000, 48
All Steel "rebuilds" from DS Auto Cars (1924) Bettendorf U/F


WP, XM, Box, 27001-27600, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 62
DS ~ "reconditioned" from 16001-18500 series (1917,18)


WP, XM, Box, 316001-318500, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 56

DS ~ 16001-18500 series cars still equipped with arch bar trucks (not to be
interchanged)

Regards,

Guy Wilber
West Bend, WI


laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

Hi Folks

Here is a new list of car series from the July 1950 ORER whose
classification into DS, SS, or Steel is currently Unknown. This is
the entire set of Unknowns with 25 or more cars. Those marked "(N19)"
are all that remain of my Nasty Nineteen. There are almost 8,000 cars
in this list and slightly over 9,000 Unknowns in the entire database.

The Ann Arbor, Santa Fe, B&O, I-GN, and SEABOARD series have no
description in the ORER that is helpful for our effort to classify;
all the rest are described as Steel Frame, Steel Underframe, or Steel
Center Sill.

The L&N series with the double asterisks (**) is described as "Steel
Underframe and Body Frame"; the two with the triple stars (***)
as "Steel Underframe, Steel Ends, Steel Body Frame, Staggered Doors".

Maybe "Steel Body Frame" implies SS??? The phrase only occurs in
fourteen series in the entire ORER, nine of which have been
classified, all as SS.


Happy Hunting!

Best wishes
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


Road, AAR, Kind, Series, IL, Door, Capy, Qty
GA, XM, Box, 17000-17099, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 97
WofA, XM, Box, 17000-17147, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 120
A&WP, XM, Box, 37000-37133, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 102
AA, XM, Box, 41002-41246, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 98
AA, XM, Box, 74000-74147, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 139
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 5865-5968, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 79
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 5969-6006, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 37
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6022-6067, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 35
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6100-6151, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 52
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6400-6444, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 40
ATSF, XME, Auto, 7355-7399, 50'6", 7'4", 98000, 44
ATSF, XAR, AL, 9000-9199, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 198
ATSF, XAP, Box, 10509-10788, 50'6", 15'0", 78000, 36
ATSF, XI, Box, 40100-40141, 39'8", 6'0", 80000, 41
B&O, XAP, Box, 292800-292979, 50'6", 15'1", 100000, 39
B&O, XAP, Box, 293000-293096, 50'6", 15'1", 100000, 97
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
C&O, XAP, Auto, 254551-254593, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 41
C&O, XM, Box, 288000-288349, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 107
CGW, XM, Box, 40000-40598, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 197
CGW, XM, Box, 43000-43398, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 139
DL&W, VS, Ice, 6700-6889, 33'0", 4'0", 75000, 48
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35200-35249, 40'6", 14'0", 80000, 50
GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35250-35299, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 50
GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35300-35379, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 44
GM&O, XM, Box, 35300-35379, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 36 (same as above)
GM&O, XAR, Auto, 50000-50049, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 50
GTW, XAP, Auto, 572700-572799, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 39
GTW, XAP, Auto, 572800-572999, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 67
HC, XM, Box, 851-971, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 65
IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&A, XM, Box, 36001-36200, 50'6", 9'0", 100000, 196
L&N, XM, Box, 9800-9899, 50'4", 10'0", 100000, 94
**L&N, XM, Box, 13500-13999, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 244 (N19)
***L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
***L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
I-GN, XM, Box, 14350-14399, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 50
NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239 (N19)
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338 (Same as above;
N19)
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
MP, XAR, Auto, 88000-88099, 50'6", 14'6", 100000, 82
MP, XAR, Auto, 88100-88149, 50'6", 14'6", 100000, 45
MP, XAR, Auto, 88150-88199, 50'6", 14'7", 100000, 42
NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NB, XM, Box, 701-867, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 164
NB, XM, Box, 901-950, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 49
NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
NP, XM, Box, 8100-8199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 55
NP, XM, Box, 8100-8199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 44 (Same as above)
NP, XM, Box, 31100-35452, 40'3", 5'6", 80000, 36
SEABOARD, XMR, Auto, 9011-9060, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 49
SEABOARD, XMR, Auto, 9100-9149, 50'0", 15'11", 100000, 50
SLSF, XM, Box, 151000-151099, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 151100-151199, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 98
SLSF, XM, Box, 151200-151284, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 84

There are several listings in the ORER for the following Frisco
series; the first 3 are described as "Staggered Doors, Steel Frame
(See Exception)"
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 10'0", 100000, 112
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 48
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 49
This has "Steel Sides & Ends, Stagg.Doors"
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 1
This is "All Steel"
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 3
This is "Stagg.Doors, Steel Frame,Exception"
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151408, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 1

SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152000-152099, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 74
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 45 (Same as
above)
SOUTHERN, XM, Box, 409000-409999, 36'0", 6'0", 80000, 153
T&P, XM, Box, 30000-30316, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 312 (N19)
T&P, XAR, Auto, 61000-61099, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 71
T&P, XAR, Auto, 72000-72024, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 25
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42 (B-50-28, Blt
1911,Reblt '39)
WP, XM, Box, 19001-19050, 40'4", 6'1", 100000, 48
WP, XM, Box, 27001-27600, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 62
WP, XM, Box, 316001-318500, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 56


Ian Cranstone
 

Aha, one I can answer...

GTW, XAP, Auto, 572700-572799, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 39
GTW, XAP, Auto, 572800-572999, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 67

Both of these series are rebuilds from GTW's 575000-575999 series, all converted with single doors from the original double door arrangement. Cars originally built 1927, and rebuilt 1946. Although I don't have photos of these specific cars, the original 575000 series was a steel frame (single sheathed) design, so I would presume that this would also apply to the rebuilds.

Incidentally, my entries for the July 1950 ORER for the 572700 series show 59 cars.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@nakina.net
http://freightcars.nakina.net
http://siberians.nakina.net


al_brown03
 

AA, XM, Box, 41002-41246, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 98
SS blt '24, re# '29-39. PRM v2, pp2-42.

AA, XM, Box, 74000-74147, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 139
SS blt '24, rblt from 41000 series '37-39. PRM v2, pp2-42.

ATSF, XAP, Auto, 5865-5968, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 79
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 5969-6006, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 37
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6022-6067, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 35
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6100-6151, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 52
ATSF, XAP, Auto, 6400-6444, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 40
ATSF, XME, Auto, 7355-7399, 50'6", 7'4", 98000, 44
ATSF, XAR, AL, 9000-9199, 50'6", 14'6", 80000, 198
Steel, rbld ca '37 from DS. MM 3/91 pp 27-29.

ATSF, XAP, Box, 10509-10788, 50'6", 15'0", 78000, 36
ATSF, XI, Box, 40100-40141, 39'8", 6'0", 80000, 41
B&O, XAP, Box, 292800-292979, 50'6", 15'1", 100000, 39
B&O, XAP, Box, 293000-293096, 50'6", 15'1", 100000, 97
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
C&O, XAP, Auto, 254551-254593, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 41
DS, ex PM 54550 series re# late 40s post merger. Million and
Paton, "PM Revenue Freight Cars", p64.

C&O, XM, Box, 288000-288349, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 107
SS 1-1/2D ex PM 88000 series. Aux doors sealed '34, re # post merger.
Million and Paton, pp71-72.

CGW, XM, Box, 40000-40598, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 197
CGW, XM, Box, 43000-43398, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 139
Both series steel, said to be X29-type, blt late '20s. MRG 3/89 p68.

DL&W, VS, Ice, 6700-6889, 33'0", 4'0", 75000, 48
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35200-35249, 40'6", 14'0", 80000, 50
Steel blt '42. RP Cyc 4 p31.

GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35250-35299, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 50
Steel blt '47. RMJ 6/92 pp24-27.

GM&O, XAR, Auto, 35300-35379, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 44
GM&O, XM, Box, 35300-35379, 40'6", 14'0", 100000, 36 (same as
above)
Steel blt '48. RMJ 6/92 pp24-27.

GM&O, XAR, Auto, 50000-50049, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 50
Steel blt '46. RMJ 8/99 pp46-55.

GTW, XAP, Auto, 572700-572799, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 39
GTW, XAP, Auto, 572800-572999, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 67
HC, XM, Box, 851-971, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 65
Steel "USRA" a la NYC, blt '23, ex UPCX. MRG 3/87 pp7-11, RMC 1/95
pp73-76.

IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&A, XM, Box, 36001-36200, 50'6", 9'0", 100000, 196
Steel blt '41. RP CYC 8 p24.

L&N, XM, Box, 9800-9899, 50'4", 10'0", 100000, 94
SS 1-1/2D. Kline and Culotta, "Postwar Freight Car Fleet", p64.

**L&N, XM, Box, 13500-13999, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 244 (N19)
Steel, rblt '40-41 from SS cars blt '26. MRG 6/90 p44.

***L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
***L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
I-GN, XM, Box, 14350-14399, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 50
Steel blt '48. RMJ 11/97 p16, 7/98 p18.

NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239 (N19)
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338 (Same as
above;
N19)
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308 (N19)
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
MP, XAR, Auto, 88000-88099, 50'6", 14'6", 100000, 82
MP, XAR, Auto, 88100-88149, 50'6", 14'6", 100000, 45
MP, XAR, Auto, 88150-88199, 50'6", 14'7", 100000, 42
All three series SS blt '26-29, rblt & re#d. MM 1/96 pp35-38.

NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NB, XM, Box, 701-867, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 164
NB, XM, Box, 901-950, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 49
Both series steel "USRA" a la NYC, blt '23, ex UPCX, to N&B '31-39.
MRG 3/87 pp7-11, RMC 1/95 pp73-76.

NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
NP, XM, Box, 8100-8199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 55
NP, XM, Box, 8100-8199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 44 (Same as above)
SS. MM 10/05 p9, 12/05 p9.

NP, XM, Box, 31100-35452, 40'3", 5'6", 80000, 36
DS, truss rod. Green, "Northern Pacific of McGee & Nixon", pp15, 17,
20, 163.

SEABOARD, XMR, Auto, 9011-9060, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 49
Steel, rblt '36-37 on a gondola underframe. Lines South 2nd/05 pp4-13.

SEABOARD, XMR, Auto, 9100-9149, 50'0", 15'11", 100000, 50
Steel blt '47. Lines South 2nd/05 pp4-13.

-- hth --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ian Cranstone <lamontc@...> wrote:

GTW, XAP, Auto, 572700-572799, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 39
GTW, XAP, Auto, 572800-572999, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 67

Both of these series are rebuilds from GTW's 575000-575999 series,
all converted with single doors from the original double door
arrangement. Cars originally built 1927, and rebuilt 1946.
Although
I don't have photos of these specific cars, the original 575000
series was a steel frame (single sheathed) design, so I would
presume
that this would also apply to the rebuilds.
Thanks, Ian

Your answers above completed the GTW for all but one series (576000-
576999, SS), 3 cars, which are on your outstanding web site. When I
add the Canadian lines to the database, your site will make it a
breeze! (http://freightcars.nakina.net)

Incidentally, my entries for the July 1950 ORER for the 572700
series
show 59 cars.
My ORER (Westerfield CD) has three successive entries for the 572700
series with 39, 3, and 17 = 59 cars in each. The biggest difference
between them appears to be the capacity, successively 80000, 85000,
90000 lbs. In my list I just showed the first series. Thanks for
bringing this to my attention though - I would like to correct as
many errors as I can (and with the group's help I've found several!)

I forwarded the address of your web site to a Canadian friend of
mine, Rob Godby. Turns out the two of you have corresponded a few
times and met at a few shows in Canada. He says "Hi".

Here is the Grand Trunk Western with your data added in:

GTW . . . . %. . .Number
DS . . . . 2.4%. . . 202
SS . . . .41.5%. . 3,544
Steel. . .56.1%. . 4,789
Other. . . 0.0%. . . . 0
Known. . 100.0%. . 8,535
Unknown. . 0.0%. . . . 0
Total. . 100.0%. . 8,535

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

Thanks Al! It will take me a while to process this, but I'll post the
results later today.

Best wishes, Larry


laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, guycwilber@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/9/2007 8:32:39 PM Central Standard Time,
ostresh@... writes:

WP, XM, Box, 19001-19050, 40'4", 6'1", 100000, 48
All Steel "rebuilds" from DS Auto Cars (1924) Bettendorf U/F


WP, XM, Box, 27001-27600, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 62
DS ~ "reconditioned" from 16001-18500 series (1917,18)


WP, XM, Box, 316001-318500, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 56

DS ~ 16001-18500 series cars still equipped with arch bar trucks
(not to be
interchanged)

Regards,

Guy Wilber
West Bend, WI
Thanks, Guy!

Your information has brought the Western Pacific to 100% completion.
Congratulations! Here it is, with your data added in:

WP . . . . %. . . Number
DS . . . .25.1%. . . 486
SS . . . .21.6%. . . 417
Steel. . .53.3%. . 1,032
Other. . . 0.0%. . . . 0
Known. . 100.0%. . 1,935
Unknown. . 0.0%. . . . 0
Total. . 100.0%. . 1,935

Looks like the WP would be a great line to model if you want a
variety of equipment: 1 part DS, 1 part SS, 2 parts steel - a nice
recipe!

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

Hi Folks

Since I posted a new list of Unknowns yesterday, many have been
solved or I have offers to solve them. These are the ones that remain
Unknown:

GA, XM, Box, 17000-17099, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 97
WofA, XM, Box, 17000-17147, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 120
A&WP, XM, Box, 37000-37133, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 102
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
SLSF, XM, Box, 151000-151099, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 151100-151199, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 98
SLSF, XM, Box, 151200-151284, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 84
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 10'0", 100000, 112
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 48
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 49
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152000-152099, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 74
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 45
SOUTHERN, XM, Box, 409000-409999, 36'0", 6'0", 80000, 153
T&P, XM, Box, 30000-30316, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 312
T&P, XAR, Auto, 61000-61099, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 71
T&P, XAR, Auto, 72000-72024, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 25
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


cshope@...
 

I will look for the MP and T&P Cars tonight.



Respectfully submitted

Charles D. Shope, AIA

President

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From: laramielarry [mailto:ostresh@uwyo.edu]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:16 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: The DS/SS split - More Unknowns



Hi Folks

Since I posted a new list of Unknowns yesterday, many have been
solved or I have offers to solve them. These are the ones that remain
Unknown:

GA, XM, Box, 17000-17099, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 97
WofA, XM, Box, 17000-17147, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 120
A&WP, XM, Box, 37000-37133, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 102
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
SLSF, XM, Box, 151000-151099, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 151100-151199, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 98
SLSF, XM, Box, 151200-151284, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 84
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 10'0", 100000, 112
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 48
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 49
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152000-152099, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 74
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 45
SOUTHERN, XM, Box, 409000-409999, 36'0", 6'0", 80000, 153
T&P, XM, Box, 30000-30316, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 312
T&P, XAR, Auto, 61000-61099, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 71
T&P, XAR, Auto, 72000-72024, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 25
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


jaley <jaley@...>
 

On Feb 11, 9:15am, laramielarry wrote:
Subject: [STMFC] Re: The DS/SS split - More Unknowns
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42
According to the UP Diagram of these cars:
UNDERFRAME - RIVETED - BETTENDORF
SUPER-STRUCTURE - WOOD SHEATHING, POSTS & BRACES

These were double-sheathed cars rebuilt from A-50-2 automobile cars.

Regards,

-Jeff

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DPG Chipsets Product Engineering
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533