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Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Note that I changed the subject <G>.
Richard Hendrickson writes: "All true, but please note that these monstrosities were all constructed before John Purcell became the Santa Fe's chief mechanical officer in 1912 and immediately began to get rid of them, as well as to bring the Santa Fe's obsession with compound locos to an abrupt end in favor of simple locos with Schmidt superheaters. The accomplishments of the Santa Fe's mechanical department under Purcell, H. H. Lanning, and Charles T. Ripley, culminating with the remarkable 4-6-4s, 4-8-4s, and 2-10-4s built for the Santa Fe between 1937 and 1944, are documented in great detail in a new book by Larry Brasher, Santa Fe Steam Locomotive Development, recently published by Signature Press." Yep. I have the book. As far as Santa Fe's design mistakes in the 30's, 40's and 50's goes...I'm thinking about them. And thinking...and thinking......Gimmeee time... Mike Brock |
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From: "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> As far as Santa Fe's design mistakes in the 30's, 40's and 50's goes...I'mIf the Caswell gondola was such a great idea, why did no one else copy it? That's the basic standard that's been used here to defame PRR designs. |
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Mike Brock writes:
"As far as Santa Fe's design mistakes in the 30's, 40's and 50's goes...I'm thinking about them. And thinking...and thinking......Gimmeee time..." Well, they left the belpaire fire boxes off for one.... Bill Schneider (ducking for cover) |
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Charlie Vlk
The CB&Q had Caswells, and it looks like some Canadian cars were built to a similar design if not under the Caswell patent.
Charlie Vlk |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:29 PM, timboconnor@... wrote:
-------------- Original message ----------------------"Shoot from the hip" O'Connor once again shoots himself in the foot. 1. The Caswell gondola was not a Santa Fe design. It was designed and patented by the National Dump Car Co.; see e.g. pp. 124-125 in the 1922 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. 2. Numerous other RRs ordered drop bottom gondolas of Caswell design, both composite and all steel, though they were different in some details from the cars built by AC&F for the Santa Fe. Granted, the Santa Fe owned more Caswell gons than any other RR, but that's because they used them in the same kind of service for which eastern RRs bought hopper cars. The Santa Fe owned NO coal hoppers until 1929 and very few of them before the mid-1950s, preferring (like other western RRs) to use GS gondolas for coal and similar bulk minerals. Richard Hendrickson |
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Westerfield <westerfield@...>
The Q Caswells were identical to the AT&SF Ga.O - no heavy end bracing and a floor resting on the center sill that prevented the end doors from opening fully. I have plans to do these if I live long enough. - Al Westerfield
The CB&Q had Caswells, and it looks like some Canadian cars were built to a similar design if not under the Caswell patent. Charlie Vlk Recent Activity a.. 6New Members Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Freight car b.. Train travel c.. Recreation travel d.. Train travel in usa e.. Train travel vacation NCAA Madness! Find a hoops group Talk Tourney ball with fellow fans Boxing Greats Who's the best? Share and vote on Bix.com Health Zone Look your best! Groups to help you look & feel great. . |
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Charlie Vlk
The Q Caswells were identical to the AT&SF Ga.O - no heavy end bracing and a floor resting on the center sill that prevented the end doors from opening fully. I have plans to do these if I live long enough. - Al Westerfield
.....and I have some N FineNscale car kits sitting in a box sometime to do the same thing...if I live long enough - Charlie Vlk ...... |
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Gee Bill, that was heinous. I think you should send everyone on the list two cartons of the
Branchline product of their choice for reparations. Eric Petersson Mike Brock writes: "As far as Santa Fe's design mistakes in the 30's, 40's and 50's goes...I'm thinking about them. And thinking...and thinking......Gimmeee time..." Well, they left the belpaire fire boxes off for one.... Bill Schneider (ducking for cover) ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag |
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