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new Accurail cars
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Ray Meyer
Anyone want to comment on how accurate these are (recognizing that all the
detail may not be shown)? http://www.accurail.com/accurail/trainfest.htm -- Atty Raymond G. Meyer 110 E. Main St Port Washington, WI 53074 262-284-5566 rgmeyer2@... |
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Anyone want to comment on how accurate these are (recognizing that all the The CNW gondola is dead-on accurate The MILW hopper is a stand-in -- the MILW had 3-bay offset hopper cars in this series but they had "step-taper" ends (like the Athearn quad, which is very close to a MILW ex-CTH&SE hopper) and riveted battens on the sides. You'll need Enterprise door mechanisms too -- I can't recall if those come with the Accurail hopper kit The KGB box car is a stand-in -- the model actually is a replica of an Illinois Central car -- but it's pretty close in overall appearance The WC car is a post-1970 design Tim O'Connor |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Dead-on accurate? Probably not, and we won't know for sure until we see the model's ends. If they follow the AAR recommended practice drawings, they'll be pre-war Dreadnaught ends, whereas that C&NW 70 ton cars and other postwar versions all had Improved Dreadnaught ends. Richard Hendrickson |
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Right... open mouth, insert foot. And someone commented that
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the side grabs aren't correct for C&NW either. Still, the car is better than a stand-in -- those differences are easily overcome if one cares to correct them. Tim O'Connor The CNW gondola is dead-on accurateDead-on accurate? Probably not, and we won't know for sure until we |
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Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
One of the box cars in my club's operating roster is marked for the
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KGB. The car pocket says "return when empty to Moscow WI" regards, Andy Miller -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Richard Hendrickson Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:01 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] new Accurail cars On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote: Dead-on accurate? Probably not, and we won't know for sure until we see the model's ends. If they follow the AAR recommended practice drawings, they'll be pre-war Dreadnaught ends, whereas that C&NW 70 ton cars and other postwar versions all had Improved Dreadnaught ends. Richard Hendrickson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links |
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rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
This paint scheme is more appropriate than the one with the large
C&NW lettering for that style of CNW car . Tom Wencl sent me this link and a photo of a car still in that scheme dated 78 over the weekend, althougth it did have the reporting marks and number restenciled. If you want to buy an Accurail gon lettered CNW better head for Milwaukee in Nov. Clark Propst --- In STMFC@..., "Ray Meyer" <rgmeyer2@...> wrote: all the detail may not be shown)? |
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al_brown03
Moscow is in southwestern Wisconsin, in Iowa County, more or less
between Blanchardville and Hollandale. But the railroad between those two places (in the era of this group a branch of, I think, the Milwaukee Road) bypassed Moscow. (Blanchardville and Hollandale are on a branch of the Pecatonica River, but Moscow's up a side valley.) Methinks one of your club members may be playing. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., "Miller, Andrew S." <asmiller@...> wrote: Behalf Of Richard Hendricksonthat weall theDead-on accurate? Probably not, and we won't know for sure until see the model's ends. If they follow the AAR recommended practiceton
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote: Not quite, Richard. The C&NW and subsidiary Omaha Road (CMO) had several orders of similar cars; information and photos of all are presented in an article by Jeffrey Koeller in the May 2005 issue of Mainline Modeler. The detail breakdown is as follows: SERIES ORDERED ENDS CNW 70501-71999 odd 11/44 Reversed DN CNW 69701-70499 odd 9/45 Reversed DN CMO 88101-88899 odd 9/45 Reversed DN CNW 130701-131699 odd 8/48 IDE CMO 88901-89199 odd 8/48 IDE CNW 75001-75399 odd 2/53 DN w/straps CNW 5192-5691 inclusive 7/55 DN w/straps There is additional info about the various lots being renumbered to CNW 97001-101157 odd in 1965-66. The photos show the "DN w/straps" car ends are indeed early pattern Dreadnaught ends with two flat steel straps added to their outer faces. I know this seems late for a new application of this end, but that's how it is. The "reversed DN" ends are what some have called "bifurcated" ends in the past, this is really just how the side of the dreadnaught pressing you normally don't see looks. Since our kit will have separate ends that model both the inner and outer contours, it will be interesting to see if anyone modifies them to install them inside-out to model these cars. The IDE ends may be able to be had from the ends DA made for their GS gon; I haven't checked the dimensions. In reality, the difference between Dreadnaught and IDE ends is not very noticeable on gons, since either end had the same number of ribs in the same space, unlike a boxcar. We used a car number for a car that should have reversed ends on the Trainfest special because in general the car looks more like our model: The cars that actually had normal early pattern Dreadnaught ends (with straps) also had noticeably extra heavy stakes near the center of the car. The earlier cars don't have these, and so therefore look more like our model. The end ladder and hand brake on these is also more like our model. One difference we simply can't accommodate is the fact that the side sheathing ended high on the side sill, with the sill showing below it, on ALL the CNW/CMO cars. However, with two rivet strips along the bottom of our car side, the lower could be removed and a line scribed just below the upper to depict this feature. Dennis Storzek Accurail, Inc. |
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rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...> wrote:
feature. The Sunshine model has the same problem, plus has too many grabs. Thanks for the tip on reversing the ends. I will pass it on. Clark Propst |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:31 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>Dennis, I defer to Jeff's MM article, as I know him to be a thorough and reliable source of information, as well as to your obviously careful study of the data he provided. I wasn't aware of that article because I gave up on MM several years ago, having grown weary of Bob Hundman's eccentric perspective and the declining frequency with which I found anything interesting or useful in the magazine, but Jeff's article is one I should have and I will get a copy of it. This affords me an opportunity to write publicly what I have long thought and said privately. First, that your contributions to the STMFC list are invaluable, consistently thoughtful and well informed. Second, that I applaud your willingness as a manufacturer both to take part in our discussions here and to do so with admirable candor. I have sometimes disagreed with your product development decisions - easy for me to do since it isn't my money that's at stake - but I respect the work you do because I know that it is well researched and that the results are a judicious compromise between accuracy and quality on the one hand and marketability on the other. We all benefit from your efforts and expressions of gratitude are in order. Richard Hendrickson |
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote: Why thank you, Richard. It's pretty much been a life long interest since I was first exposed to prototype modeling in the late sixties. Your FCDX, Freight Car Data Exchange, round-robin mailing list (snail-mail, that is) may well be the forerunner of all the discussion groups now on the web. We had the interest back then, but not the means to communicate. Now we do. As to anyone expressing gratitude, let's save the bandwidth. Just spend your hobby dollars on Accurail products at your LHS. :-) Dennis |
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