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Freight Shipped In Wooden Barrels
Charles Hladik
Bob,
I know for a fact that flour and crackers were shipped in wooden barrels. Flour was also shipped in cloth sacks. Chuck Hladik ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com |
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Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specialized
freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before the common use of steel drums, bags and cardboard containers, many items, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels. I can think of items like wine, cement, nails and other hardware being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shipped by rail in barrels? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Charles Morrill
Cured food stuffs like pickels, crackers, cured meats, flour, ---
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From: "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: [STMFC] Freight Shipped In Wooden Barrels As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specialized freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before the common use of steel drums, bags and cardboard containers, many items, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels. I can think of items like wine, cement, nails and other hardware being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shipped by rail in barrels? |
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Robert <riverob@...>
Today we have inexpensive mass-produced cardboard boxes, but lots of
small items used to be packed with excelsior in barrels. General household goods like plates, cookware, and hardware, tools, mechanical parts, widgets... Rob Simpson --- In STMFC@..., "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote: specialized freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before theitems, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels.being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shippedby rail in barrels? |
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Charles Morrill
In the days before fork lifts and such, one man could easily move a loaded barrel around by hand that if the same weight were in a crate, he would not be able to budge.
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From: "Robert" <riverob@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight Shipped In Wooden Barrels Today we have inexpensive mass-produced cardboard boxes, but lots of |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Chuck Hladik wrote:
I know for a fact that flour and crackers were shipped in wooden barrels.You mean . . . the "ol' cracker barrel" isn't mythical? <g> Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
As pretty much standard equipment Santa Fe depots had something that
resembled a ladder with metal rungs, but with some missing. Its purpose was to assist in unloading barrels from freight cars. This information came from a retired depot agent and her clerk. Sometimes this device was hung on a depot wall, although fire ladders were also sometimes hung on depot walls. Jared Harper Athens, GA |
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Charles Hladik
Tony,
Nope, the "ole cracker barrel" is not a myth. Not to be confused with the "new Cracker Barrel" where people still sit around and discuss freight cars. Chuck Hladik ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com |
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Bike Guy
Depends on how early a time but look at a period western. All food stuffs,
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flour, salt, apples, etc. I still have apple barrels in the barn. -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:18 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Freight Shipped In Wooden Barrels As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specialized freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before the common use of steel drums, bags and cardboard containers, many items, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels. I can think of items like wine, cement, nails and other hardware being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shipped by rail in barrels? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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From: Bob Chaparro As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specialized freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before the common use of steel drums, bags and cardboard containers, many items, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels. I can think of items like wine, cement, nails and other hardware being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shipped by rail in barrels? ----- Original Message ----- Any kind of breakable item like glassware, pottery, and china was packed into barrels with excelsior and sawdust. KL |
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Ljack70117@...
Like to point out nails were not shipped in barrels. They were ships in kegs.
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Thank you Larry Jackman Boca Raton FL ljack70117@... I was born with nothing and I have most of it left On Sep 15, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Kurt Laughlin wrote:
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Ted Schnepf
Hi Bob,
I have heard of dressed poultry being loaded in barrels and loaded into iced reefers. Ted At 12:17 PM 9/14/2007, you wrote: As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specializedRails Unlimited Ted Schnepf railsunl@... 847-697-5353 or 5366 126 Will Scarlet Elgin, Ill. 60120 http://RailsUnlimited.ribbonrail.com/ Model Railroad Sales and Service with a personal touch. Books new and used. HO and O scales. DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars. Photos and darkroom services. Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 4% added). -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1005 - Release Date: 9/13/2007 11:45 AM |
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Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
At 08:43 9/15/2007, Larry J wrote:
Like to point out nails were not shipped inTrue... but I think we're all in violent agreement: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/keg> keg –noun 1. a small cask or barrel nb. My daughter is an expert on Kegs: She graduated from CSU Chico. -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA -------------------- |
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Jon Miller <atsf@...>
I have a cask/keg/barrel of nails, in the pump house, I bought in the mid '70s.
Jon Miller AT&SF For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS |
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Eric Hansmann
Bob Chaparro wrote:
As we all know, in the earlier days of railroading before specialized freight cars, many items were shipped in boxcars. And before the common use of steel drums, bags and cardboard containers, many items, I'm told, were shipped in wooden barrels. I can think of items like wine, cement, nails and other hardware being shipped in barrels but I'm wondering what else was commonly shipped by rail in barrels? ============================================== Many glass products were also shipped in wooden barrels and boxes. In researching the West Virginia glass industry, I find many plants had a box factory as part of their operation or located very close by. These box factories made products of the wooden variety in the pre-WWII period. Many of the larger plants converted to corrugated cardboard box plants after WWII. I have seen several Grief Brothers box factories noted on fire insurance maps and in shippers guides. While there were some window glass plants in West Virginia, many tableware factories dotted the industrial landscape here. Some of the final product may have also been shipped in wooden barrels. Another small factory is seen in a few instances. The Sanborn Fire Insurance maps for Moundsville, WV, illustrates the Fostoria Glass factory operation quite well. Just up the short B&O branch was an excelsior plant. Excelsior was a shredded wood product used as packing material in many boxes and barrels. Eric Hansmann Morgantown, W. Va. |
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Ljack70117@...
What did these box factories make their boxes out of????
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Thank you Larry Jackman Boca Raton FL ljack70117@... I was born with nothing and I have most of it left On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
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Eric Hansmann
--- Larry Jackman wrote:
================================ I'm kind of shocked that you had not worked in a box factory, Larry. Come to think of it, that seems to be one job you haven't mentioned here over the last few years. <grin> As I noted in my post: plants had a box factory as part of their operation or located veryMany glass products were also shipped in wooden barrels and boxes. close by. These box factories made products of the wooden variety in the pre-WWII period. Many of the larger plants converted to corrugated cardboard box plants after WWII. < < Wood for boxes often was shipped from saw mills. It was not #1 material, but rough cut smaller dimensional material shipped in boxcars. Smaller stock would not be shipped using gondolas or flats. Box factories often had additional saws to cut the lumber to the necessary sizes. I would suspect the wood came from the closest source. Corrugated cardboard box plants would receive rolls of heavy kraft paper stock to manufacture the cardboard. Larger plants would receive the paper rolls in boxcars. Eric Hansmann Morgantown, W. Va. |
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Ljack70117@...
You see you did not read my post right. You just want to insult me. I ask what the box factories back there used to make boxes out of.
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I KNOW WHAT THEY USED AT THE IN HUTCHINSON KS. Having never knowingly seen one made back there I do not know what they use and wanted to know. Thank you Larry Jackman Boca Raton FL ljack70117@... I was born with nothing and I have most of it left On Sep 15, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
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Robert <riverob@...>
I thought ships were in bottles?
Rob Simpson --- In STMFC@..., Ljack70117@... wrote: ships in kegs. Thank you |
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Charles Hladik
Steve,
But beer had been shipped in wooden barrels AND kegs until the advent of the metal "pony kegs". Chuck Hladik ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com |
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