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NP 30603
Richard Hendrickson
On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Gene Green wrote:
series 9000-9099. Rebuilt as single door cars and renumbered into the
30600 series in the 1930s. The roof is the original NP-designed
curved, metal sheathed wood roof which the NP called a "circular" roof
and applied to all of its house cars from the teens through the early
1930s.
Richard Hendrickson
When was that car built?Built in September, 1923, as a 1-1/2 door car with 10' door openings,
Does the apparently excess door track indicate the car originally had
double doors?
Is that an arched roof as opposed to peaked?
series 9000-9099. Rebuilt as single door cars and renumbered into the
30600 series in the 1930s. The roof is the original NP-designed
curved, metal sheathed wood roof which the NP called a "circular" roof
and applied to all of its house cars from the teens through the early
1930s.
Richard Hendrickson
Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
Thank you, Richard.
Gene Green
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Gene Green
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originally had
On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Gene Green wrote:When was that car built?
Does the apparently excess door track indicate the car
openings,double doors?Built in September, 1923, as a 1-1/2 door car with 10' door
Is that an arched roof as opposed to peaked?
series 9000-9099. Rebuilt as single door cars and renumbered intothe
30600 series in the 1930s. The roof is the original NP-designedroof
curved, metal sheathed wood roof which the NP called a "circular"
and applied to all of its house cars from the teens through theearly
1930s.
Richard Hendrickson
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Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
Richard or anyone else,
I have a couple more questions about this car.
The 1950 ORER has a number series 30000-30988. This would include
the 30600 series so apparently two or more groups of same or similar
cars were grouped together.
The Landmesser 1948-50 hot box list has NP XMs 30387, 30477, 30589
and 30796. The inside length is 50'-3". NP 30796 was carrying wood
pulp on July 3, 1948. Wasn't wood pulp hauled in a wet state?
Wouldn't that signal that the car was near the end of its useful life?
I need a model on my railroad. Is there a good candidate in HO?
Gene Green
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I have a couple more questions about this car.
The 1950 ORER has a number series 30000-30988. This would include
the 30600 series so apparently two or more groups of same or similar
cars were grouped together.
The Landmesser 1948-50 hot box list has NP XMs 30387, 30477, 30589
and 30796. The inside length is 50'-3". NP 30796 was carrying wood
pulp on July 3, 1948. Wasn't wood pulp hauled in a wet state?
Wouldn't that signal that the car was near the end of its useful life?
I need a model on my railroad. Is there a good candidate in HO?
Gene Green
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote:
Built in September, 1923, as a 1-1/2 door car with 10' dooropenings,
series 9000-9099. Rebuilt as single door cars and renumbered intothe
30600 series in the 1930s. The roof is the original NP-designedroof
curved, metal sheathed wood roof which the NP called a "circular"
and applied to all of its house cars from the teens through theearly
1930s.
Richard Hendrickson
leakinmywaders
Gene: I'd venture your best bet might be to take a cue from the
prototype, and get there from here:
http://speedwitch.com/Models/k103.htm
Best,
Chris Frissell
Polson, MT
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prototype, and get there from here:
http://speedwitch.com/Models/k103.htm
Best,
Chris Frissell
Polson, MT
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Richard or anyone else,
I need a model on my railroad. Is there a good candidate in HO?
Gene Green
Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
How incredibly straightforward! Thank you for the URL, Chirs.
Gene
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Gene
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Gene: I'd venture your best bet might be to take a cue from the
prototype, and get there from here:
http://speedwitch.com/Models/k103.htm
Best,
Chris Frissell
Polson, MT
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Richard or anyone else,
I need a model on my railroad. Is there a good candidate in HO?
Gene Green
Richard Hendrickson
On Mar 1, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Gene Green wrote:
single-door form. I don't know for sure that he contemplates doing so,
but I'd be surprised if he doesn't.
Richard Hendrickson
How incredibly straightforward! Thank you for the URL, Chirs.Gene, you might want to wait and see if Ted offers a revised version in
Gene
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>
> Gene: I'd venture your best bet might be to take a cue from the
> prototype, and get there from here:
>
> http://speedwitch.com/Models/k103.htm
single-door form. I don't know for sure that he contemplates doing so,
but I'd be surprised if he doesn't.
Richard Hendrickson
Richard Hendrickson
On Feb 29, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Gene Green wrote:
your confusion. The original number series of the 1923 1-1/2 door cars
was 6000-6999, so there were a thousand cars in the series. When
rebuilt with single doors in the 1930s, they were renumbered
30000-30988, and in 1/45 970 of those cars were still active.
Richard Hendrickson
Richard or anyone else,Gene, my post on this subject contained a typo which is the source of
I have a couple more questions about this car.
The 1950 ORER has a number series 30000-30988. This would include
the 30600 series so apparently two or more groups of same or similar
cars were grouped together.
your confusion. The original number series of the 1923 1-1/2 door cars
was 6000-6999, so there were a thousand cars in the series. When
rebuilt with single doors in the 1930s, they were renumbered
30000-30988, and in 1/45 970 of those cars were still active.
Richard Hendrickson
While we are chasing this around, I should point out that the Speedwitch model is of the 5000 - 5999 series cars with the offset doors that were not rebuilt as single door cars, so it would be more challenging to start with the existing Speedwitch model because you would have to create the boards and diagonal frame member in the panel to the left of the door.
Regards,
Steve Hile
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Regards,
Steve Hile
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From: Richard Hendrickson
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: NP 30603
On Feb 29, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Gene Green wrote:
> Richard or anyone else,
> I have a couple more questions about this car.
>
> The 1950 ORER has a number series 30000-30988. This would include
> the 30600 series so apparently two or more groups of same or similar
> cars were grouped together.
Gene, my post on this subject contained a typo which is the source of
your confusion. The original number series of the 1923 1-1/2 door cars
was 6000-6999, so there were a thousand cars in the series. When
rebuilt with single doors in the 1930s, they were renumbered
30000-30988, and in 1/45 970 of those cars were still active.
Richard Hendrickson
From: Richard Hendrickson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: NP 30603
On Feb 29, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Gene Green wrote:
> Richard or anyone else,
> I have a couple more questions about this car.
>
> The 1950 ORER has a number series 30000-30988. This would include
> the 30600 series so apparently two or more groups of same or similar
> cars were grouped together.
Gene, my post on this subject contained a typo which is the source of
your confusion. The original number series of the 1923 1-1/2 door cars
was 6000-6999, so there were a thousand cars in the series. When
rebuilt with single doors in the 1930s, they were renumbered
30000-30988, and in 1/45 970 of those cars were still active.
Richard Hendrickson