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Mystery boxcar at Saluda
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Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
On page 86 of Spring, 2008 Classic Trains, there is a photo of a train
ascending Saluda grade on the Southern Ry. As usual, the photographer concentrated on that black smoky thing pullin the train instead of the what was behind it. Can anyone shed some light on the boxcar behind the loco in the photo--the reporting marks seem to be SP 1xxxx, but looks like a USRA steel sided-rebuild such as the Gerogia RR cars, with a radial roof?? |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Steve Lucas wrote:
On page 86 of Spring, 2008 Classic Trains, there is a photo of a train ascending Saluda grade on the Southern Ry. As usual, the photographer concentrated on that black smoky thing pullin the train instead of the what was behind it. Can anyone shed some light on the boxcar behind the loco in the photo--the reporting marks seem to be SP 1xxxx, but looks like a USRA steel sided-rebuild such as the Gerogia RR cars, with a radial roof??Yep, and the second digit is "4" -- it's an SP Class B-50-15 box car, rebuilt with steel sheet replacing the old wood sheathing. There are many photos, and a detailed class history, for these cars in my Vol. 4 on SP Freight Cars, which covers box cars. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Steve Lucas wrote:
. . . looks like a USRA steel sided-rebuild . . .I should have added, No, it's not a USRA car, much closer to (though not the same as) the 1925 ARA proposed standard car. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Carl J. Marsico <Carlmarsico@...>
Good info re: this class at this link:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b050-15.htm CJM Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...> wrote: On page 86 of Spring, 2008 Classic Trains, there is a photo of a train ascending Saluda grade on the Southern Ry. As usual, the photographer concentrated on that black smoky thing pullin the train instead of the what was behind it. Can anyone shed some light on the boxcar behind the loco in the photo--the reporting marks seem to be SP 1xxxx, but looks like a USRA steel sided-rebuild such as the Gerogia RR cars, with a radial roof?? |
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Tony Thompson
Carl J. Marsico wrote:
Good info re: this class at this link:Yes, it's a good summary. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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George Courtney
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Revealing my ignorance, of things Espee, what is ML&T? I can surmise Texas but M&L? Memphis,Louisana & Texas? I do know T&NO. George East of the Mississippi In STMFC@..., Tony Thompson <thompsonmarytony@...> wrote:
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James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
Revealing my ignorance, of things Espee, what is ML&T? I canMorgan's (Charles, not J.P.) Louisiana and Texas. http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-0507(196906)29%3A2%3C322%3ACMATDO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-C David Thompson |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Revealing my ignorance, of things Espee, what is ML&T?Morgan's Louisiana & Texas. It was leased to T&NO in 1927, though controlled by SP since the 1880s. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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