Union Pacific Stock car class


dmueller183@...
 

You mean 46759? There is no 46795 in the 1940, 1950, or
1953 ORER's.

...and ditto for july 1959 dave





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Rich Yoder
 

What class of cars does
UP #46795 Stock car belong to?
Rich Yoder
PA


Tim O'Connor
 

You mean 46759? There is no 46795 in the 1940, 1950, or
1953 ORER's.

At 8/17/2008 04:28 PM Sunday, you wrote:
What class of cars does
UP #46795 Stock car belong to?
Rich Yoder
PA


Rich Yoder
 

Yes I mean UP #46759.
What class was that car?

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM
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You mean 46759? There is no 46795 in the 1940, 1950, or
1953 ORER's.

...and ditto for july 1959 dave





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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Rich Yoder wrote:
Yes I mean UP #46759.
What class was that car?
Class S-40-6.

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Rich Yoder
 

Thank you Tony.
What car class was that equivalent to on the SP?

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM
www.richyodermodels.com

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Rich Yoder wrote:
Yes I mean UP #46759.
What class was that car?
Class S-40-6.

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--- In STMFC@..., "Richard Yoder" <oscale48@...> wrote:

Yes I mean UP #46759.
What class was that car?

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM
www.richyodermodels.com

Can't tell you the class but from the 1930 ORER it is a single deck
steel u/f stock car number series 44250 - 46759 IL 36'6" IW 8'5" IH 8'
2596 cu ft 80,000lbs capacity door 5' x 7'10" end door 1'10/2' x 3'1"

Rich Orr


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Rich Yoder wrote:
Thank you Tony.
What car class was that equivalent to on the SP?
Not clear to me. The UP S-40-6 cars were built in 1918, well after the Harriman Lines had dissociated, and I really can't say for sure if this UP class even corresponds exactly to an SP class. One would tend to think of SP's S-40-5, built in 1915-1917, but I'm sure details differ.

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Aley, Jeff A
 

Tony's suspicions appear to be correct. The UP S-40-6 is closely related to the SP S-40-5 but there ARE differences.

Apparently (Tony can please confirm) the S-40-5 was pretty much unchanged during its lifetime. In contrast, the S-40-6 had various letterboards, fascia heights, doors, end doors removed, roof corner gussets, poling pockets, hand brakes, brakes (K changed to AB) and trucks during their lifetimes.

Short of a full-blown presentation on the subject, I suggest the info on the Westerfield website http://www.westerfield.biz/ as a handy summary.

The best way to model the car is the Westerfield kit. If you want a plastic RTR or kit, I suggest patience, as I believe an S-40-6 will be forthcoming in the next year.

Regards,

-Jeff


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Rich Yoder wrote:
Thank you Tony.
What car class was that equivalent to on the SP?
Not clear to me. The UP S-40-6 cars were built in 1918, well
after the Harriman Lines had dissociated, and I really can't say for
sure if this UP class even corresponds exactly to an SP class. One
would tend to think of SP's S-40-5, built in 1915-1917, but I'm sure
details differ.

Tony Thompson


Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

The SP -5 and UP -6 were identical except that the UP retained the A end door from the -4 plan. Both -5 and -6 changed to dual center sills from the single on the -4. - Al Westerfield

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Rich Yoder wrote:
> Thank you Tony.
> What car class was that equivalent to on the SP?

Not clear to me. The UP S-40-6 cars were built in 1918, well
after the Harriman Lines had dissociated, and I really can't say for
sure if this UP class even corresponds exactly to an SP class. One
would tend to think of SP's S-40-5, built in 1915-1917, but I'm sure
details differ.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history