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Allen Rueter
Mike,
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don't be to quick to assume only GN/CBQ and NP/CB&Q at Minneapolis/St. Paul, post steam era wheel reports show C&NW ran a close second to the Q on interchange with the NP at M/StP. Allen Rueter
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From: Mike Brock <brockm@brevard.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:34:14 PM Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [STMFC] Re: Freight car distribution 8< 1) The loco-regional interchange model. This model says that by virtue of proximity, connecting road percentages will be higher than roads that are further away. FWIW, that does not mean that if distant road X has 10% of the national fleet and close road Y has 2% that there should be more Y cars than X cars, but only that the % of Y should be above 2% and by default, the % of X must be below 10%. No data sets have been offered to support this model." The model that I prefer is a modified Nelson/Gilbert model which states that RRs with "significant interchange" should have from 2 to 2.5 times the national %. The 1949 Fraley supports this scenario. "Significant interchange" would be one in which one RR terminates and a very high % of its traffic continues on another. Examples are UP/SP at Ogden, UT, UP/Milw and UP/CB&Q and UP/C&NW at Council Bluffs/Omaha. Add GN/CB&Q and NP/CB&Q in Minneapolis/ St. Paul and SP/RI and SP/SSW. I would not include UP/Mopac at Omaha or the other Omaha RRs. There might be others as well. I would not include RRs that simply connect as in the case of Southern and SP and Mopac at New Orleans, PRR and Mopac at St. Louis, SR and B&O at St. Louis, SR with N&W at Cicinnati. FEC and SR, SAL and RF&P would need study.
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J.A. Phillips
What we've seen in a raft of NP teletypes from their general agent in Portland is that a lot of NP traffic was handed off to the Q not in the Twin Cities but at Park Junction, Montana (read Billings). Another favorite ploy with rollers would be to send them down the James River and Oakes Branch in North Dakota and hand them off to the CNW at Oakes, N.D. This was apparently a long-standing practice.
FWIW John Phillips Any world that can produce the Taj Mahal, William Shakespeare, and striped toothpaste can't be all bad. (_One, Two, Three_, 1961)
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leakinmywaders
JP III:
Hmmmm--are you sure about that location identifier? I don't think Park Junction was in Montana. I understand it was near the Twin Cities near St. Anthony, Minnesota, and it was among the NP's busiest interchanges with CBQ, MILW, and Rock Island. Chris Frissell Polson, MT -- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Phillips, III, J.A." <whstlpnk@...> wrote: in Portland is that a lot of NP traffic was handed off to the Q not in the Twin Cities but at Park Junction, Montana (read Billings). Another favorite ploy with rollers would be to send them down the James River and Oakes Branch in North Dakota and hand them off to the CNW at Oakes, N.D. This was apparently a long-standing practice. striped toothpaste can't be all bad. (_One, Two, Three_, 1961)
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