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earlyrail
--- In STMFC@..., Howard R Garner <cascaderail@...> wrote:No, I said the M&StL and M&StL is correct. The date however is back in the 1880's prior to the takeover by what would become the CGW.time Howard Garner |
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mrslandser
During my time as a mobile agent during the early 80s for the BN, I made daily yard checks throughout my assigned territory. Quite an easy job...just pull up into the yard at a convenient point to view all the tracks, climb into the back of the van, pull out yesterday's list, confirm and/or note any changes, record the new list and be on my way!
Part of the job was to check with the online industries to order new cars, arrange their switching needs or just have a cup of coffee. If there were any needs/changes for the local, I would just leave a note in the "telephone box" for the crew and move on. Hardest part of the job was to kill the extra time leftover after visiting all the small towns along the line! Jack Hanger Former BN Operator [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Howard R Garner <cascaderail@...> wrote:
time the train the were forwarded on.If the yard book is from Northfield then the railroad is not M&StL. If the RR is M&StL then the town is not Northfield. The M&StL did not serve Northfield, MN. Could you mean Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern? Gene Green |
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earlyrail
The daily yard check has been going on for years.
The Minnesota Historical Society has a yard book from the M&StL at Northfield, Minn that has all this information, including car destination and what cars were forwarded during the day, and most time the train the were forwarded on. Howard Garner |
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Allen Rueter
Malcolm,
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I have a yard book for the Wabash, Martinsburg, MO, 1/1/1958 to 6/5/1959 Cars 'on hand' in the area were recorded, M-F morning, along with the temp., but not weekends or holidays. The most significant information, gleaned from it has been, they started storing cars for grain in mid June, some cars were on hand for six weeks or more. Empty SAL and ACL cars were going back to FL (covered hoppers) Some one was shipping on RI flats to the local Implement co. If I remove all duplicates, I have the following boxcar counts Wab 90 29.5% NYC 19 6.2% IC 11 3.6% PRR 10 3.3% CBQ 10 9 CNW NP ATSF 2.95% 8 UP SOU 2.6% 7 for L&N GN 2.3% 6 for KCS C&O 1.96% 5 NW CN 1.6% 4 for SLSF SAL RI ERIE B&O CP MP 1.3% 3 for DLW ACL SP SOOL 0.98% 2 for WM T&P SPS NJII MON MKT LV CNJ CGW CG CEI NCStL PLE GBW C&S 0.66% 1 ACY BLE DTI GTW IHB ITC MILW MNS MSTL NH NKP ONT RDG SSW TNO 0.33% Gons: 9 Wab, 3 MP, 2 CBQ, 1 IC Stock cars: 6 Wab, 4 SLSF, 3 CBQ, 3 UP/OSL -- Allen Rueter StLouis MO ----- Original Message ----
From: Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:28:25 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: 6 AM yard checks 8< It would be interesting to know how many railroads actually did that. I mentioned a few days ago several railroads that I'm pretty sure didn't do full yard checks over the whole railraod.. Malcolm Laughlin, Editor 617-489-4383 New England Rail Shipper Directories 19 Holden Road, Belmont, MA 02478 |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I mentioned a few days ago several railroads that I'm pretty sure didn't do full yard checks over the whole railraod..Originally it was stated much more positively; now you're just "pretty sure." Interesting. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
Malcolm, I don't have knowledege of the era in STMFC in this regard,
but I know that yard clerks and train crews to this day go to some trouble to make sure that car numbers are reported accurately. Such simple things as crossing the number 7 when writing car numbers so as to not have it confused with the number 1, and exercising care in copying numbers down in the first place. This is not to say that mistakes did not happen, but that they likely were the exception rather than the rule. I have a photocopy of a ledger of "grain passing through" a CN elevator on Lake Huron in the 1940's. I ought to post a few pages to STMFC, as it shows both the use of US cars for Canadian grain, and very good penmanship (sadly, now a lost art) for an everyday document. Steve Lucas. wrote: cents a car just doing the check. How does it help finding a lost car. Take for example a yard with 1000 cars. I'd estimate that's about 30 to 40 lists. At least a dozen of the car numbers will have an error either in writing or in legibility. To find a lost car, does a clerk try to read through all of those lists ? Or are the lists checked against the waybill rack - more expense -, which works only for loads and empty special equipment. lost. But daily ? On a whole railroad ? If the clerks are doing their job so poorly that every day there are enough lost cars to make the yard check pay for itself, are those same clerks who make a lot of errors going to find them. that. I mentioned a few days ago several railroads that I'm pretty sure didn't do full yard checks over the whole railraod..
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Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
Depending on what assumptions you make, you can spend 5 to ten cents a car just doing the check. How does it help finding a lost car. Take for example a yard with 1000 cars. I'd estimate that's about 30 to 40 lists. At least a dozen of the car numbers will have an error either in writing or in legibility. To find a lost car, does a clerk try to read through all of those lists ? Or are the lists checked against the waybill rack - more expense -, which works only for loads and empty special equipment.
I could see that once a week to try to find cars that are really lost. But daily ? On a whole railroad ? If the clerks are doing their job so poorly that every day there are enough lost cars to make the yard check pay for itself, are those same clerks who make a lot of errors going to find them. It would be interesting to know how many railroads actually did that. I mentioned a few days ago several railroads that I'm pretty sure didn't do full yard checks over the whole railraod.. Malcolm Laughlin, Editor 617-489-4383 New England Rail Shipper Directories 19 Holden Road, Belmont, MA 02478 |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Larry Jackman wrote:
Cars get lost in yards and a 6AM check of every track in town would keep it only to one day.Larry makes a good point. If you do it weekly, how do you catch lost cars? And doing it weekly makes a huge job, compared to doing it daily. I don't see that waiting makes for less clerks. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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