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Very early intermodal cars - Clejan Spinecar available in N Scale


prbharris
 

Just creeping into the timescales of the group - with one photograph
to my knowledge of these cars being hauled by steam too - we are just
about to release N Scale Kits of the Clejan spine cars. Introduced in
1959, Clejan spine cars were one of three early specific intermodal
methods, after early methods used converted flatcars.

The cars were run by Southern Pacific, New Haven, Erie and KCS. We
have used detailed drawings to produce the cars which will be
available very shortly.

Details are at
http://www.nscalekits.com
http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/clejan_spine_soon.html

The use of the cars was brief - and just out of the steam era; these
early spine cars are a classic transition car.

One of the uses of the cars was to transport autos from the Van Nuys
plant, and a specific autocarrier was developed for this operation.
Just look at those late '50s fins!

Peter

Peter Harris
N Scale Kits
www.nscalekits.com


Peter Ness
 

Hi Peter,

You can feel a little less guilty about discussing the Clejan
TOFC's. The cars were originally designed and fabricated in 1955
(cars 18000-18001) for the New Haven RR. The production cars (18100-
18299) were assembled by the New Haven (Readville Shops) in 1956.
Due to the convergence of too many factors to list (but chief among
them the clumsy loading system for trailers on these cars, the
emergence of the TrailerTrain consortium and the advent of the ACF
Type 1 hitch), the cars were not well recieved and these same cars
were sold (or leased? - need someone with SP data here) to the
Southern Pacific.

The NHRHTA published an article on these cars in the Association
publication "Shoreliner" a decade or so ago. You can try contacting
them at nhrhta DOT org for assistance, failing that, contact me off
group if you are interested in historical background on these cars.

Hope this helps,
Peter R. Ness
http://www.freewebs.com/newhavenrailroad1959/

--- In STMFC@..., "prbharris" <peter@...> wrote:

Just creeping into the timescales of the group - with one photograph
to my knowledge of these cars being hauled by steam too - we are
just
about to release N Scale Kits of the Clejan spine cars. Introduced
in
1959, Clejan spine cars were one of three early specific intermodal
methods, after early methods used converted flatcars.

The cars were run by Southern Pacific, New Haven, Erie and KCS. We
have used detailed drawings to produce the cars which will be
available very shortly.

Details are at
http://www.nscalekits.com
http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/clejan_spine_soon.html

The use of the cars was brief - and just out of the steam era; these
early spine cars are a classic transition car.

One of the uses of the cars was to transport autos from the Van Nuys
plant, and a specific autocarrier was developed for this operation.
Just look at those late '50s fins!

Peter

Peter Harris
N Scale Kits
www.nscalekits.com


Tim O'Connor
 

The Southern Pacific bought 150 79'6" Clejan flat cars in 1957,
and added 100 more 85' Clejan flats in 1959. SP acquired only 5
of the New Haven cars in 1961 (Note: error in Tony's SP Freight
Cars Vol. 3 book, page 296). SP rebuilt the 79'6" cars in 1961
to 85' and reconfigured them for container service. Overland
imported models of the New Haven flats (not correct for SP's
F-50-17) in HO scale. In 1964 SP began rebuilding all of their
85' cars to 89'. )The former Clejan cars received automobile
racks.) SP bought a total of 672 79'6" or 85' piggyback flats
from 1957 to 1960. The old Athearn 85' F85 is very similar to
the 50 SP F-70-17 flats bought in 1960, and it can be used as
is for the period 1960-1965. Half of the F-70-17's were leased
to PFE 1962-1964, operating with PFF reporting marks.

All of the prototype data (and lots more) is found in Tony's
SP Freight Cars Vol. 3 book. Everyone should have these books
if nothing else for the spectacular collection of photos!

Tim O'Connor

Hi Peter,
You can feel a little less guilty about discussing the Clejan
TOFC's. The cars were originally designed and fabricated in 1955
(cars 18000-18001) for the New Haven RR. The production cars (18100-
18299) were assembled by the New Haven (Readville Shops) in 1956.
Due to the convergence of too many factors to list (but chief among
them the clumsy loading system for trailers on these cars, the
emergence of the TrailerTrain consortium and the advent of the ACF
Type 1 hitch), the cars were not well recieved and these same cars
were sold (or leased? - need someone with SP data here) to the
Southern Pacific.
Hope this helps,
Peter R. Ness


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Peter Ness wrote:
The production cars (18100-18299) were assembled by the New Haven . . . the cars were not well recieved and these same cars were sold (or leased? - need someone with SP data here) to the Southern Pacific.
Not exactly. The SP leased 50 of the cars for a few months, then bought 5 and returned the rest. I don't know why they chose to buy so few as 5. But photos and data are in my SP Freight Cars, Vol. 3, which includes flat cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
SP acquired only 5 of the New Haven cars in 1961 (Note: error in Tony's SP Freight
Cars Vol. 3 book, page 296).
Not an error, Tim. The column showing "No. of car" reflects the original NH class. Note two columns to the right that car numbers were 510475-510479; also note in Table 13-1, page 278, that this number group is shown as five cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history