Walthers Michigan ore car (NEW)


Curt Fortenberry <arrphoto@...>
 

This caught me by surprise (yea!):

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-40501

But at twice the price of the DMIR versions. Yikes.

Curt Fortenberry


gn3397 <heninger@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Curt Fortenberry" <arrphoto@...> wrote:

This caught me by surprise (yea!):

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-40501

But at twice the price of the DMIR versions. Yikes.

Curt Fortenberry
The Walthers description says the cars were built to transport the "heavier iron ores of
Michigan's Upper Peninsula." I always thought the (slight) dimensional differences between
the Minnesota and Michigan style ore cars was the fact that the holding pockets on the iron
ore docks were spaced differently. Is Michigan ore denser, or is there another explanation?
Thanks for any help.

Sincerely,
Robert D. Heninger
Iowa City, Iowa


Tim O'Connor
 

Think they'll come with wire grabs? If they're anything
like the Walthers 2893 PS-2, i wouldn't feel too excited.
Wasn't this prototype in the old MDC lineup, which means
Athearn still has the tooling?

Tim O'Connor

This caught me by surprise (yea!):
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-40501
But at twice the price of the DMIR versions. Yikes.
Curt Fortenberry


krlpeters
 

Bob:
 
The spacing of the pockets is the same, but the spacing of the tracks is closer on the docks serving the Michigan ore ranges.
 
I don't know if the Michigan ores are denser. Will have to do some research to answer that question.
 
One possibility for the difference in dimensions is that most of the Michigan mines were underground, and the cars had to fit between the supports for the pockets in the headframes.
 
There was an article in the September 1994 issue of MAINLINE MODELER, by Patrick Dorin on these cars.
 
Karl Peters 

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Bob Hainstock <boblh@...>
 

While I will admit that I am somewhat glad that Walthers is
producing these 70 ton cars, I really keep hoping that someone
would mass-produce a 50 ton steel ore car, a much more common
car in the steam era of the ore operations of the Michigan
upper peniunsula ore operations.

I've heard rumors that Tichy was considering a car design that
C&NW, Soo, and DSS&A each used, I've not heard anymore about
that project. Is there any news on that front?

And yes I do have some of the excellent Westerfield GN cars,
also used by the Lake Superior and Ishpeming.

And a note of possible interest regarding the width of the
"Michigan" car. And okay I admit that this is outside of steam
era: the Wisconsin Central had to remove every other track in
the old Escanaba C&NW ore yard when the yard was converted over
to handling regular freight cars.

Bob Hainstock


Cyril Durrenberger
 

Westerfield is working on a kit for a HO scale model of the 50 ton
Summers ore car - used by DSS&A, Soo, DM&N, D&IR (later
DM&IR).

Cyril Durrenberger

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Bob Hainstock <boblh@...> wrote:
From: Bob Hainstock <boblh@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Walthers Michigan ore car (NEW)
To: STMFC@...
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:02 PM











While I will admit that I am somewhat glad that Walthers is

producing these 70 ton cars, I really keep hoping that someone

would mass-produce a 50 ton steel ore car, a much more common

car in the steam era of the ore operations of the Michigan

upper peniunsula ore operations.



I've heard rumors that Tichy was considering a car design that

C&NW, Soo, and DSS&A each used, I've not heard anymore about

that project. Is there any news on that front?



And yes I do have some of the excellent Westerfield GN cars,

also used by the Lake Superior and Ishpeming.



And a note of possible interest regarding the width of the

"Michigan" car. And okay I admit that this is outside of steam

era: the Wisconsin Central had to remove every other track in

the old Escanaba C&NW ore yard when the yard was converted over

to handling regular freight cars.



Bob Hainstock


























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