Thanks to those that replied on the Swift reefer question, as a
further query on that, can anyone suggest a Floquil mix for the
post'38 yellow sides and what the ends and roof color should be? I
have a number of the P2K ACF type 21 tank cars and am wondering if the
ACF built UTLX cars were to an ACF design (like the type 21 and/or
type 27) or a UTLX design. TIA, Guy Brooke

On Nov 21, 2008, at 5:37 AM, comox11 wrote:

.... I have a number of the P2K ACF type 21 tank cars and am
wondering if the
ACF built UTLX cars were to an ACF design (like the type 21 and/or
type 27) or a UTLX design. TIA, Guy Brooke

Guy, the tank cars AC&F built new for UTL were all of UTL design.
However, UTL acquired the tank car fleets of many private owners,
especially during the depression years in the early 1930s, and the
P2K models are painted and lettered on the basis of photographic
evidence showing those second-hand cars after being repainted and
restenciled UTLX. So they are prototypically accurate, but it should
be added that they were only a small part of the UTL fleet; by far
the greatest number of UTLX tank cars were of UTL's own X-3 design.

Richard Hendrickson

It'd be nice to see an X-3 come out as a kit or RTR. Something tells
me that this won't happen any time soon, as away from this board in
the rest of the model rail hobby, tank cars are "all the same" to
most modellers. (sigh)

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote:

On Nov 21, 2008, at 5:37 AM, comox11 wrote:

.... I have a number of the P2K ACF type 21 tank cars and am
wondering if the
ACF built UTLX cars were to an ACF design (like the type 21 and/or
type 27) or a UTLX design. TIA, Guy Brooke

Guy, the tank cars AC&F built new for UTL were all of UTL design.
However, UTL acquired the tank car fleets of many private owners,
especially during the depression years in the early 1930s, and the
P2K models are painted and lettered on the basis of photographic
evidence showing those second-hand cars after being repainted and
restenciled UTLX. So they are prototypically accurate, but it

should

be added that they were only a small part of the UTL fleet; by far
the greatest number of UTLX tank cars were of UTL's own X-3 design.

Richard Hendrickson

--- Steve Lucas wrote:

It'd be nice to see an X-3 come out as a kit or RTR.

===================================


Steve,

Sunshine Models released an HO scale resin kit for the UTLX X-3 cars
in 2002 ot 2003. Kit details can be found here:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/new%
20products/sunshine/utlxx3_1main.html

Some finished and in-process models can be seen on this page:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/vm/vm21/vm21main.html

As far as I know, these kits are still available directly from
Sunshine Models. There are a few different types representing
different capacities. Sunshine has no web presence, but a satisfied
customer created a website with kit details and ordering info.
http://www.sunshinekits.com/contactsunshine.html

These are challenging kits that build into very nice models. If you
are not familiar with resin kit construction, you may want to start
with a gondola or box car to gain confidence before tackling one of
the UTLX models.

Eric Hansmann
Morgantown, W. Va.

Eric wrote:

These are challenging kits that build into very nice models. If you
are not familiar with resin kit construction, you may want to start
with a gondola or box car to gain confidence before tackling one of
the UTLX models.

The construction of this particular kit is also covered in Ted's Essential
Freight Cars #12 article from the May 2004 issue of RMC...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com

I have the article, and am contemplating buying a kit or two. But
for this very common car, it'd be nice to see a styrene kit or RTR
model on the market. I have built more than a few resin cars, and a
resin-bash of a Norwest Imperial Oil tank car almost wore me out...

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:

Eric wrote:

These are challenging kits that build into very nice models. If

you

are not familiar with resin kit construction, you may want to

start

with a gondola or box car to gain confidence before tackling one

of

the UTLX models.

The construction of this particular kit is also covered in Ted's

Essential

Freight Cars #12 article from the May 2004 issue of RMC...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com