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LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
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Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to a
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona: http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c Bob Chaparro Moderator Citrus Industry Modeling Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ |
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James Eckman
Wouldn't that make a great scene!
Thanks, Jim |
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Schuyler Larrabee
Extremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the background. SGL |
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Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
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only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee. The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos on web sites to be misidentified. Tim O'Connor Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to aExtremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was |
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Charles Morrill
I've been in Bisbee and it definitely is not Bisbee, AZ. If the Arizona part is correct, perhaps it is Phoenix.
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Charlie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
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bowie1793
That is not Bisbee Arizona as far as I am concerned. My wife and I are from Cochise County of which Bisbee is the county seat. The area is not farmland but was mining and cattle ranching. Union Ice was a Southern California business, Crystal Ice was the major manufacturer in Phoenix. The PFE had its ice manufacturing plant in Tucson.
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Joe Jacques --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers To: STMFC@... Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:40 AM Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee. The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos on web sites to be misidentified. Tim O'Connor Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to aExtremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
It is most assuredly not Bisbee, Arizona. No part of Bisbee is on
anything even remotely resembling flat land. When the streets in Bisbee were paved the workers didn't know whether they were paving or plastering. The high school building had four ground-floor entrances; one each on the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th floors. Gene Green a frequent visitor to Bisbee. --- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote: to a <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/>LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona: been iced BEFORE this loading was background.done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the
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Dick Harley
It's interesting that the R-30-11 in the foreground still appears to have a metal medallion screwed to the side, since the removal of those metal medallions started in early 1936 - supposedly for safety reasons.
It appears that its reweigh date is 1942, so that part of the photo label seems correct. Cheers, Dick Harley |
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Charles Morrill" <badlands@...> wrote:
Arizona part is correct, perhaps it is Phoenix.A word of caution about the Time-Life photo captions, they were most likely done by summer interns from information written on the sleeves the photos were in. I was going through a series that claimed to be the Soo Locks, and came across a photo of a boat entering the Chicago River, with the double deck Lake Shore Drive drawbridge open, and traffic backed up all around the infamous "S" curve, which has been gone for years now. Other photos appeared to be taken on the St. Clair River. Detroit was the location given for all these "Soo locks" photos, very likely because the assignment was originally something about lake traffic and how it affected Detroit. Oh, and there actually was one or two photos of the Soo locks in the group. Reader beware. Dennis |
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cliffprather
The photo may have been taken at Salinas, Calif. There are several
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photos of the Union Ice facility on pages 58 and 59 in Southern Pacicic's Coast Line Pictorial. The shot were taken in 1962 and the packing shed and track pattern look much like the Life photo. A big difference is that the cooling tower on the Union Ice house is not there in 1962. On page 348 of the PFE book (first edition)there is a picture of top icing a car at a packing shed that looks like the one in the Life photo. The part of the crate label visiable in the photo appears to be similar to the ones in the Life picture. The photo in the PFE book is dated 1936. Cliff Prather --- In STMFC@..., "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote:
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Cliff Prather wrote:
The photo may have been taken at Salinas, Calif. There are several photos of the Union Ice facility on pages 58 and 59 in Southern Pacicic's Coast Line Pictorial. The shot were taken in 1962 and the packing shed and track pattern look much like the Life photo.Excellent catch, Cliff. The distinctive arch bridge in front of the Union Ice facility is probably conclusive. On page 348 of the PFE book (first edition)there is a picture of top icing a car at a packing shed that looks like the one in the Life photo. The part of the crate label visiable in the photo appears to be similar to the ones in the Life picture. The photo in the PFE book is dated 1936.That photo is Watsonville, and most lettuce crates looked much alike. I don't think this photo has much to do with Life photo, but the Salinas ID sounds good to me. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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