Date
1 - 11 of 11
LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Cliff Prather wrote:
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
The photo may have been taken at Salinas, Calif. There are several photos of the Union Ice facility on pages 58 and 59 in Southern Pacicic's Coast Line Pictorial. The shot were taken in 1962 and the packing shed and track pattern look much like the Life photo.Excellent catch, Cliff. The distinctive arch bridge in front of the Union Ice facility is probably conclusive.
On page 348 of the PFE book (first edition)there is a picture of top icing a car at a packing shed that looks like the one in the Life photo. The part of the crate label visiable in the photo appears to be similar to the ones in the Life picture. The photo in the PFE book is dated 1936.That photo is Watsonville, and most lettuce crates looked much alike. I don't think this photo has much to do with Life photo, but the Salinas ID sounds good to me.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
cliffprather
The photo may have been taken at Salinas, Calif. There are several
photos of the Union Ice facility on pages 58 and 59 in Southern
Pacicic's Coast Line Pictorial. The shot were taken in 1962 and the
packing shed and track pattern look much like the Life photo. A big
difference is that the cooling tower on the Union Ice house is not
there in 1962.
On page 348 of the PFE book (first edition)there is a picture of top
icing a car at a packing shed that looks like the one in the Life
photo. The part of the crate label visiable in the photo appears to be
similar to the ones in the Life picture. The photo in the PFE book is
dated 1936.
Cliff Prather
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photos of the Union Ice facility on pages 58 and 59 in Southern
Pacicic's Coast Line Pictorial. The shot were taken in 1962 and the
packing shed and track pattern look much like the Life photo. A big
difference is that the cooling tower on the Union Ice house is not
there in 1962.
On page 348 of the PFE book (first edition)there is a picture of top
icing a car at a packing shed that looks like the one in the Life
photo. The part of the crate label visiable in the photo appears to be
similar to the ones in the Life picture. The photo in the PFE book is
dated 1936.
Cliff Prather
--- In STMFC@..., "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote:
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to a
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Charles Morrill" <badlands@...> wrote:
likely done by summer interns from information written on the sleeves
the photos were in. I was going through a series that claimed to be
the Soo Locks, and came across a photo of a boat entering the Chicago
River, with the double deck Lake Shore Drive drawbridge open, and
traffic backed up all around the infamous "S" curve, which has been
gone for years now. Other photos appeared to be taken on the St. Clair
River. Detroit was the location given for all these "Soo locks"
photos, very likely because the assignment was originally something
about lake traffic and how it affected Detroit. Oh, and there actually
was one or two photos of the Soo locks in the group. Reader beware.
Dennis
Arizona
I've been in Bisbee and it definitely is not Bisbee, AZ. If the
part is correct, perhaps it is Phoenix.A word of caution about the Time-Life photo captions, they were most
Charlie
likely done by summer interns from information written on the sleeves
the photos were in. I was going through a series that claimed to be
the Soo Locks, and came across a photo of a boat entering the Chicago
River, with the double deck Lake Shore Drive drawbridge open, and
traffic backed up all around the infamous "S" curve, which has been
gone for years now. Other photos appeared to be taken on the St. Clair
River. Detroit was the location given for all these "Soo locks"
photos, very likely because the assignment was originally something
about lake traffic and how it affected Detroit. Oh, and there actually
was one or two photos of the Soo locks in the group. Reader beware.
Dennis
Dick Harley
It's interesting that the R-30-11 in the foreground still appears to have a metal medallion screwed to the side, since the removal of those metal medallions started in early 1936 - supposedly for safety reasons.
It appears that its reweigh date is 1942, so that part of the photo label seems correct.
Cheers,
Dick Harley
It appears that its reweigh date is 1942, so that part of the photo label seems correct.
Cheers,
Dick Harley
Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
It is most assuredly not Bisbee, Arizona. No part of Bisbee is on
anything even remotely resembling flat land. When the streets in
Bisbee were paved the workers didn't know whether they were paving or
plastering. The high school building had four ground-floor
entrances; one each on the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th floors.
Gene Green
a frequent visitor to Bisbee.
--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
anything even remotely resembling flat land. When the streets in
Bisbee were paved the workers didn't know whether they were paving or
plastering. The high school building had four ground-floor
entrances; one each on the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th floors.
Gene Green
a frequent visitor to Bisbee.
--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
to a
Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'ConnorCourtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/>LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
<http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c>
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/
been iced BEFORE this loading was
Extremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have
background.done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the
SGL
bowie1793
That is not Bisbee Arizona as far as I am concerned. My wife and I are from Cochise County of which Bisbee is the county seat. The area is not farmland but was mining and cattle ranching. Union Ice was a Southern California business, Crystal Ice was the major manufacturer in Phoenix. The PFE had its ice manufacturing plant in Tucson.
Joe Jacques
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--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
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Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:40 AM
Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'Connor
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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
To: STMFC@...
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:40 AM
Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'Connor
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to aExtremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images. google.com/ hosted/life/ f?imgurl= 72941a1fc7cd792c
<http://images. google.com/ hosted/life/ f?imgurl= 72941a1fc7cd792c>
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/citrusmode ling/ <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/citrusmode ling/>
done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the background.
SGL
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Charles Morrill
I've been in Bisbee and it definitely is not Bisbee, AZ. If the Arizona part is correct, perhaps it is Phoenix.
Charlie
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: LIFE Magazine Photos- PFE Reefers
Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'ConnorCourtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to aExtremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
<http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c>
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/>
done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the background.
SGL
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Is that photo really from Bisbee Arizona? I thought Bisbee was
only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'Connor
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only a copper mining town. I can't find any information in the
PFE book on an icing plant or large produce facility in Bisbee.
The wide valley with background mountains looks more like Colton
or some other California location... It's not unusual for photos
on web sites to be misidentified.
Tim O'Connor
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to aExtremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
<http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c>
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/>
done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the background.
SGL
Schuyler Larrabee
Extremely 'cool' shot (sorry, bad pun). Would these reefers have been iced BEFORE this loading was
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to a
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
<http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c>
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/>
done, or after. I do see the "UNION ICE COMPANY" in the background.
SGL
Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Courtesy of Bruce Morden from Carpenteria, CA, we have this link to a
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/
LIFE Magazine photo showing PFE reefers being loaded in Arizona:
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?imgurl=72941a1fc7cd792c
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/