I recently picked up three Max gray [O scale] freight cars. One is supposed to be the B&O offset quad, but the one I have has probably incorrect hoppers, with the doors facing each other in each pair rather than the center (apparently the Japanese DID build other ones with the right configuration). I've research all the obvious sources
to see whether any prototypes exist for this, but the only quads with the paired hoppers seem to be PRR H21 and H25 or Erie rebuilds of old gondolas.
Anyone aware of any offset side quads with such hoppers?
Jace Kahn

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On Nov 21, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Justin Kahn wrote:

I recently picked up three Max gray [O scale] freight cars. One is
supposed to be the B&O offset quad, but the one I have has probably
incorrect hoppers, with the doors facing each other in each pair
rather than the center (apparently the Japanese DID build other
ones with the right configuration). I've research all the obvious
sources
to see whether any prototypes exist for this, but the only quads
with the paired hoppers seem to be PRR H21 and H25 or Erie rebuilds
of old gondolas.
Anyone aware of any offset side quads with such hoppers?

Jace, the Wine Railway Equipment Co. developed such a car,
incorporating their cast steel hopper car door frames and interior
braces, and a photo of the sample car, WRAX 100, as well as scale
drawings, appeared in the 1931 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. The Max
Gray model may have been based on the Cyc drawings. The Santa Fe
purchased 75 cars of this design from the Richmond Car Co. in 1929
which became Santa Fe class Ga-24, nos. 181075-181149. In 1941 those
cars were equipped with second-hand box car roofs for bulk grain
service. I have photos of them in both forms. Other RRs may also
have bought cars of the Wine design, but if so I'm not aware of any
documentation.

Richard Hendrickson

The Santa Fe purchased 75 cars of this design from the Richmond Car Co. in 1929.

Ralston, not Richmond.

David Thompson

On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:50 PM, James D Thompson wrote:

The Santa Fe purchased 75 cars of this design from the Richmond

Car Co. in

1929.

Ralston, not Richmond.

The source I was using said Richmond, but I should have suspected
that was wrong. When I went to the Santa Fe freight car folio page
for these cars, I found that David is correct; the builder was
Ralston. Thanks for the correction.


Richard Hendrickson