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asychis@...
Hi Guys,
The Amarillo Railroad Museum and the Missouri Pacific Historical Society have a joint venture to offer ART steel reefers custom made by InterMountain. As you might know, we've had the as-delivered paint scheme avaialbe for some time and that run is almost sold out. We have just brought in the second run which is the "classic scheme" with Wabash flag and MP buzzsaw hearlds in addition to the ART shield. This is a limited run of 300 kits and 300 assembled cars. The assembled cars are available in five numbers. The kits are unnumbered but decals will be included so you can add your own numbers and reweigh date/location. The cars represent the 32000 series with Preco fans and the 33000 series with Equipco fans. If interested, please check out our website (_www.amarillorailmuseum.com_ (http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/) ) for the new cars, or our e-Bay listing for the older run in the 22000 series. If you have any questions, please e-mail me off list at _asychis@... (mailto:asychis@...) . I have to mention that our website is in a sort of shambles due to an inept webmaster who has seemed to have gone AWOL. We have five numbers, not eight. The price is $18.95 for kits and $29.95 for assembled cars. The decals for the kits have been delayed until after 1/1/09, but we'll send them to you under separate cover at no additional cost for those buying kits. If you want decals for the assembled cars (i.e. you want to change the numbers on these cars), the cost for a set of decals is $2.00. Thanks, Jerry Michels Amarillo Railroad Museum **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=a olcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) |
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Paul Lyons
Jerry,
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When were the cars painted in the "classic scheme". I know I have this somewhere, but I am heading out the door for the day. Thanks, Paul Lyons Laguna NIguel, CA -----Original Message-----
From: asychis@... To: STMFC@... Sent: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:42 am Subject: [STMFC] New ART steel reefer Hi Guys, The Amarillo Railroad Museum and the Missouri Pacific Historical Society have a joint venture to offer ART steel reefers custom made by InterMountain. As you might know, we've had the as-delivered paint scheme avaialbe for some time and that run is almost sold out. We have just brought in the second run which is the "classic scheme" with Wabash flag and MP buzzsaw hearlds in addition to the ART shield. This is a limited run of 300 kits and 300 assembled cars. The assembled cars are available in five numbers. The kits are unnumbered but decals will be included so you can add your own numbers and reweigh date/location. The cars represent the 32000 series with Preco fans and the 33000 series with Equipco fans. If interested, please check out our website (_www.amarillorailmuseum.com_ (http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/) ) for the new cars, or our e-Bay listing for the older run in the 22000 series. If you have any questions, please e-mail me off list at _asychis@... (mailto:asychis@...) . I have to mention that our website is in a sort of shambles due to an inept webmaster who has seemed to have gone AWOL. We have five numbers, not eight. The price is $18.95 for kits and $29.95 for assembled cars. The decals for the kits have been delayed until after 1/1/09, but we'll send them to you under separate cover at no additional cost for those buying kits. If you want decals for the assembled cars (i.e. you want to change the numbers on these cars), the cost for a set of decals is $2.00. Thanks, Jerry Michels Amarillo Railroad Museum **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=a olcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) |
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Ed Hawkins
On Dec 20, 2008, at 11:49 AM, cobrapsl@... wrote:
Jerry,Paul, In answering your question I will do so in a more general way to help modelers of the 1940s through the 1950s understand their options for these ART reefers. Some of this may be a rehash of information that's previously been discussed on the STMFC. The original lettering scheme used by ART on their steel reefers was applied to new and repainted cars from 1936 to early 1948, at which time an interim scheme began use and documented on new cars built in May and June 1948. Refer to Charlie Duckworth's article in RP CYC Volume 2, which sheds some light on the subject. The interim scheme was just like the original scheme except a MP buzzsaw emblem (red and white with a blue border) was applied to the left side of the car over the reporting marks and a small Wabash flag was in the same position on the right side of the car. The interim scheme was used for only about two years. Photos of repainted ART reefers in the interim scheme are pretty scarce. Photos of the interim scheme have been more commonly found on series 26900-27999 that were built new in mid-1948 and originally lettered in the interim scheme. The MPHS and Amarillo Railroad Museum is considering producing the interim scheme, however, we are yet to locate a photo of the prototype cars built 1939-1944 (original series 24000-24449 with the horizontal side seams) with this scheme. If the right decals were available for the buzzsaw and flag, the 1948-1950 interim scheme could easily be created by using the original model and adding the decals. Any ART reefers receiving the original scheme as late as 1947 would have gone into the early 1950s with that scheme before being repainted with the new post-1950 scheme. Modelers of the 1951-1952 period (possibly even 1953, but that's starting to stretch it) could theoretically have all three ART schemes at the same time. The ART models now being offered wore a scheme first used circa mid-1950 to the early 1960s. The large Wabash flag drawing was dated April 1950, however the earliest car I've located with this scheme had a reweigh date of March 1951. Just like PFE reefers had changes in their painting and lettering practices, ART did the same during the mid to late 1950s with the dropping of 1" bars over and under the reporting marks, dropping the periods in the reporting marks, adding a trademark symbol next to the Wabash flag, and eventually painting the sides entirely yellow instead of keeping the black side sill and door hardware. Hope this helps. Regards, Ed Hawkins |
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Paul Lyons
Thanks Ed,
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Since I model December 1950, I will but a couple of the kits and use a little modelers license with the re-paint date. Paul Lyons Laguna Niguel, CA -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [STMFC] New ART steel reefer On Dec 20, 2008, at 11:49 AM, cobrapsl@... wrote: Jerry,Paul, In answering your question I will do so in a more general way to help modelers of the 1940s through the 1950s understand their options for these ART reefers. Some of this may be a rehash of information that's previously been discussed on the STMFC. The original lettering scheme used by ART on their steel reefers was applied to new and repainted cars from 1936 to early 1948, at which time an interim scheme began use and documented on new cars built in May and June 1948. Refer to Charlie Duckworth's article in RP CYC Volume 2, which sheds some light on the subject. The interim scheme was just like the original scheme except a MP buzzsaw emblem (red and white with a blue border) was applied to the left side of the car over the reporting marks and a small Wabash flag was in the same position on the right side of the car. The interim scheme was used for only about two years. Photos of repainted ART reefers in the interim scheme are pretty scarce. Photos of the interim scheme have been more commonly found on series 26900-27999 that were built new in mid-1948 and originally lettered in the interim scheme. The MPHS and Amarillo Railroad Museum is considering producing the interim scheme, however, we are yet to locate a photo of the prototype cars built 1939-1944 (original series 24000-24449 with the horizontal side seams) with this scheme. If the right decals were available for the buzzsaw and flag, the 1948-1950 interim scheme could easily be created by using the original model and adding the decals. Any ART reefers receiving the original scheme as late as 1947 would have gone into the early 1950s with that scheme before being repainted with the new post-1950 scheme. Modelers of the 1951-1952 period (possibly even 1953, but that's starting to stretch it) could theoretically have all three ART schemes at the same time. The ART models now being offered wore a scheme first used circa mid-1950 to the early 1960s. The large Wabash flag drawing was dated April 1950, however the earliest car I've located with this scheme had a reweigh date of March 1951. Just like PFE reefers had changes in their painting and lettering practices, ART did the same during the mid to late 1950s with the dropping of 1" bars over and under the reporting marks, dropping the periods in the reporting marks, adding a trademark symbol next to the Wabash flag, and eventually painting the sides entirely yellow instead of keeping the black side sill and door hardware. Hope this helps. Regards, Ed Hawkins |
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jerryglow2
I corresponded with Ed and he replied
"You are correct that Oddballs decal set 548 for the wood reefer should provide the heralds to modify the steel reefer offered by the MPHS/Amarillo RR Museum to update the scheme for the 24000-24449 steel cars to the scheme applied 1948-1950." He did state he hasn't seen the set to verify it's accuracy but for the purpose here should be fine. I used them to complete my otherwise Champ and ALPS lettered car as can be seen: http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/ART.html Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@..., Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote: the left side of the car over the reporting marks and a small Wabashflag was in the same position on the right side of the car. The interiminterim scheme have been more commonly found on series 26900-27999 thatwere built new in mid-1948 and originally lettered in the interim scheme. |
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