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GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar
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rdietrichson
Hey all;
On the SS 1 1/2 door automobile boxcar that GTW ran, what type of an end did this car have? I believe that a model of this class of cars were done as a resin kit in HO, but I'm doing in N scale hence the question. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Dec 30, 2008, at 2:19 PM, rdietrichson wrote:
Hey all; Rick, the HO scale resin kit was actually a Don Valentine conversion kit with new doors, etc. to kitbash an Accurail single sheathed box car. I have a photo which shows the end and I'll send you a scan off- list. Richard Hendrickson |
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rdietrichson
Thanks Dick,
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Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC ----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hendrickson To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar On Dec 30, 2008, at 2:19 PM, rdietrichson wrote: > Hey all; > On the SS 1 1/2 door automobile boxcar that GTW ran, what type of an > end did this car have? I believe that a model of this class of cars > were done as a resin kit in HO, but I'm doing in N scale hence the > question. > Rick, the HO scale resin kit was actually a Don Valentine conversion kit with new doors, etc. to kitbash an Accurail single sheathed box car. I have a photo which shows the end and I'll send you a scan off- list. Richard Hendrickson |
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote: Richard, He might mean the tall ca. 1930 cars that were drawn in Mainline Modeler fifteen or twnty years ago. A number series would be helpful. Dennis
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rdietrichson
Denis, The car # that I've seen a model of is 583699. I hope this helps clear up which class I'm refering to, and again Dick thanks for the scan of the car.
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Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC ----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Storzek To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar --- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2008, at 2:19 PM, rdietrichson wrote: > > > Hey all; > > On the SS 1 1/2 door automobile boxcar that GTW ran, what type of an > > end did this car have? I believe that a model of this class of cars > > were done as a resin kit in HO, but I'm doing in N scale hence the > > question. > > > Rick, the HO scale resin kit was actually a Don Valentine conversion > kit with new doors, etc. to kitbash an Accurail single sheathed box > car. I have a photo which shows the end and I'll send you a scan off- > list. > > Richard Hendrickson Richard, He might mean the tall ca. 1930 cars that were drawn in Mainline Modeler fifteen or twnty years ago. A number series would be helpful. Dennis > > > > |
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cinderandeight@...
Guys,
For others wishing to see GTW #583699, a photo of it appeared in the 1931 Car Builders Cyclopedia on page 131. It was reprinted in the Train shed Cyclopedia #3 also. It appears to have a 3-3-3 dreadnaught end supplied at that time by Union Metal Products (which would later morphs into Standard Railway Equipment Co). I'm pretty sure I can come up with a Union Metal products ad showing this end in detail if anyone would want a scan of it off site. The car also have a lever style hand brake. It's hard to tell from the photo which brand, possibly a Klasing or Miner. Rich Burg **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) |
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Marty McGuirk
Where did you see the picture? If it's online a link would help.
I don't have my reference material at work but that number sounds like it's one of the c 1928 cars built for the Central Vermont and GTW. It might be a CV car that was transferred to the GTW. Ed Beaudette did an article in MR a few years ago that included prototype drawings of the CV/GTW 1-1/2 door as built cars (CV's 41000- series). Not sure about the accuracy of the Mainline drawings Dennis referred to but I do know the drawings in MR were based on prototype drawings and confirmed with field measurements of three surviving cars. Marty --- In STMFC@..., "Richard Dietrichson" <Rdietrichson@...> wrote: helps clear up which class I'm refering to, and again Dick thanks for the scan of the car. Rick Dietrichsontype of an > > end did this car have? I believe that a model of this classof cars > > were done as a resin kit in HO, but I'm doing in N scalehence the > > question.conversion > kit with new doors, etc. to kitbash an Accurail single sheathedbox > car. I have a photo which shows the end and I'll send you ascan off- > list.helpful.
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rdietrichson
Marty,
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The picture was of a car model, in the new Yahoo weathering group. The difference in this car model, was that the car had Youndstown doors, but the end of the car in the photo could not be seen. The link for this picture is http://mopac51.tripod.com/id5hmtl. I hope this clears up the confusion. Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC ----- Original Message -----
From: cvsne To: STMFC@... Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:46 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar Where did you see the picture? If it's online a link would help. I don't have my reference material at work but that number sounds like it's one of the c 1928 cars built for the Central Vermont and GTW. It might be a CV car that was transferred to the GTW. Ed Beaudette did an article in MR a few years ago that included prototype drawings of the CV/GTW 1-1/2 door as built cars (CV's 41000- series). Not sure about the accuracy of the Mainline drawings Dennis referred to but I do know the drawings in MR were based on prototype drawings and confirmed with field measurements of three surviving cars. Marty --- In STMFC@..., "Richard Dietrichson" <Rdietrichson@...> wrote: > > Denis, The car # that I've seen a model of is 583699. I hope this helps clear up which class I'm refering to, and again Dick thanks for the scan of the car. > Rick Dietrichson > Wilmington, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dennis Storzek > To: STMFC@... > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:10 PM > Subject: [STMFC] Re: GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar > > > --- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@> > wrote: > > > > On Dec 30, 2008, at 2:19 PM, rdietrichson wrote: > > > > > Hey all; > > > On the SS 1 1/2 door automobile boxcar that GTW ran, what type of an > > > end did this car have? I believe that a model of this class of cars > > > were done as a resin kit in HO, but I'm doing in N scale hence the > > > question. > > > > > Rick, the HO scale resin kit was actually a Don Valentine conversion > > kit with new doors, etc. to kitbash an Accurail single sheathed box > > car. I have a photo which shows the end and I'll send you a scan off- > > list. > > > > Richard Hendrickson > > Richard, > > He might mean the tall ca. 1930 cars that were drawn in Mainline > Modeler fifteen or twnty years ago. A number series would be helpful. > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Paul Krueger <kruegerp@...>
There was a typo in the link:
http://mopac51.tripod.com/id5.html Here is the direct link to the picture: http://mopac51.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tripodgtwautoboxcar.jpg Paul Seattle, WA --- In STMFC@..., "Richard Dietrichson" <Rdietrichson@...> wrote: The difference in this car model, was that the car had Youndstown doors, but the end of the car in the photo could not be seen. The link for this picture is http://mopac51.tripod.com/id5hmtl. I hope this clears up the confusion. Rick Dietrichson |
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Marty McGuirk
The car shown in the link is an HO scale resin kit made by F&C
(originally sold by Steam Shack, currently available from F&C). Here are some photos of the ends - it's usually easier to locate photos of these cars by searching under "CV" instead of "GTW" http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=219608 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=809280 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=826268 Hope these help - I need to get back to work. Marty --- In STMFC@..., "Richard Dietrichson" <Rdietrichson@...> wrote: The difference in this car model, was that the car had Youndstown doors, but the end of the car in the photo could not be seen. The link for this picture is http://mopac51.tripod.com/id5hmtl. I hope this clears up the confusion. Rick Dietrichsonand GTW. It might be a CV car that was transferred to the GTW.41000- series). Not sure about the accuracy of the Mainline drawingsDennis referred to but I do know the drawings in MR were based onprototype drawings and confirmed with field measurements of three survivingthis helps clear up which class I'm refering to, and again Dick thanksfor the scan of the car.<rhendrickson@> > wrote:sheathed box |
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Marty McGuirk
Forgot to add the car shown (by the way, the pre-restoration pics of
the cars with four-digit numbers and the finished restoration of 43022 are the same car). 43022 had it's roof raised a four inches to accommodate Evans auto loaders and at point. The 1-1/2 door cars had the same ends, just without the obvious raised section on the ends. In my N scale days I built one of these cars with the idea of casting it. Need to see if I can dig that model out - I don't remember how I did it other than I used an Intermountain piece for the auto door end and I used M-T doors. Marty |
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